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Trump’s Ascent Has Conservatives Wary
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 6, 2016 | Gerald F. Seib

Posted on 05/06/2016 11:21:43 PM PDT by Innovative

As Donald Trump emerged victorious in the race for the Republican presidential nomination this week, the loudest cries of anguish heard in Washington may well have come from one section of his own party—from those in its conservative movement.

“Conservatives had their party hijacked from them in the 2016 primaries,” wrote Jonathan S. Tobin in Commentary, a leading platform for conservatives. He added: “The consequences for individual liberty and restraint of government power, not to mention America’s foreign-policy interests, will be incalculable.”

Meanwhile, Leon H. Wolf, writing on the conservative site Redstate.com, proposed what many conservatives would consider a radical action, declared that Republicans “must know that there is absolutely no chance that we will win the White House” and are likely to lose control of the Senate as well. As a result, he urged Republicans in the Senate to move promptly to confirm Merrick Garland, President Barack Obama’s nominee to the Supreme Court, on the theory that more liberal nominees would follow if he isn’t approved now.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; commentary; conservatives; election2016; erickerickson; geraldfseib; gope; jonathanstobin; leonhwolf; leonwolf; newyork; pinkstain; pinkstate; redstain; redstate; trump; wallstreetjournal
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To: Innovative

Let me just say that social conservatism, at least from my 70 years of observation, doesn’t break down to being a republican or a democrat. Nor independent for that mater.

The abortion issue for instance, highlights this... A large majority of adults DO NOT support abortion on demand. Something like 70%. These folks are not all republicans. For example, the Catholic block is probably the most focused anti-abortion group, and they vote overwhelmingly democrat.

As far as fiscal conservatism is concerned, people vote their pocketbook. People vote in a way that they perceive will benefit themselves and their families personally. They don’t necessary understand the issues and they may be wrong, but they vote that way none the less.


61 posted on 05/07/2016 3:44:18 AM PDT by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

“This leaves out the distinct possibility that Trump is changing his tune and giving lip service to the people he thinks would be most likely to elect him.”

I’m sorry that is just crazy talk. OR so it appears to me. Nobody would run on a platform and then absolutely repudiate it. If he did the GrOP-E would have him impeached in two weeks


62 posted on 05/07/2016 3:50:26 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardener chatting with friends)
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To: Innovative

I once again defer to fearless leader:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3421722/posts


63 posted on 05/07/2016 3:56:05 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Not sure if he’s a real conservative or pretending?

Doesn’t matter, he’s going to keep his campaign promises.

He has a long and unbroken record of doing so, something no other candidate had.


64 posted on 05/07/2016 4:01:33 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Innovative

Trump can easily bring conservatives onboard by relatively modest changes to some of his programs. Knock off the tariff increases, ethanol subsidies, eminent domain, SCOTUS previews (which he’s doing), solid commitment to the Penny Plan, and a few others.

The larger concern is his lack of a formal organization. He needs to raise $1.5 billion to compete with the Beast. His GOTV ground game is almost non-existent. He won the primary on the strength of his personality and message, but he’s up against the entire progressive movement in the general.

Never Hillary!


65 posted on 05/07/2016 4:16:49 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Gene Eric

Rent-seeking protectionist globalist crooks.


66 posted on 05/07/2016 4:19:21 AM PDT by 4Liberty (We can't say 'property' with Rights, but we must say 'social' (collectivism) with "Justice.")
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To: ColdSteelTalon

And his finance guy is a Soros lackey.

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Do you even KNOW the role of a “finance guy” working for a campaign? Why in the world would his links to anyone or anything else have a bearing on the quality of the job he can do?

You remind me of the kind of a person who, needing to choose a Dr to perform an operation would eschew the best qualified surgeon whose politics you didn’t agree with in favor of a lesser qualified surgeon who was more to your political liking.

Trump is hiring a “mechanic” of sorts, a person to do a job involving MONEY MANAGEMENT and procuring and as such Trump understands it is more important to get the BEST MECHANIC available and not someone who agrees with him 100% on his policies.


67 posted on 05/07/2016 4:22:34 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: buwaya

“One Democrat appointment will vote like any other”............

Look back at the SCOTUS voting record and you will see just that, they vote along political lines 99.9% of the time.


68 posted on 05/07/2016 4:24:12 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Positive

I too, are the same age as you and my analyzation of ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS of any party or movement are “in it for themselves”...PERIOD!

Whether it be money, power, popularity, notoriety, fame....you name it...its for them...not us.

To gain this wonderful bounty, they will do and say anything and everything the gullible voters like in order to hold, advance and retain office. Many start out with good ideas and intentions but the longer they are in the political world the more corrupt they become.

Power = money. Money = Power. Money is bait...Politicians are fish. Fish have to eat bait or they will perish. The larger the fish, the more bait they have to have.

Consequently, career politicians will do anything (including...gasp...lying) to keep office. What they say is not what they do.

The corruption of government has encroached upon our lives to the extent that we cannot even purchase a toilet that works as originally designed.

Nothing will change until everything FLIPS...instead of us being afraid of the politicians, make them afraid of us.


69 posted on 05/07/2016 4:32:17 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Innovative

These so-called “conservatives” are the same types who helped Obama get seated - twice.....


70 posted on 05/07/2016 4:38:47 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Making_Sense [Rob W. Case]

If so many Conservatives actually thought about the future 4 years ago, they would have elected Romney.


Romney is a charter member of the GOPe. He is a “go along to get along” typical politician. Do you actually think he would be any different than what his fellow GOPe lifers are? All that he would do is ensure they all got fatter and more prosperous off the backs of the “little people.”

The end result would have been bad whether it be Obama or Romney for the “little people” would continue losing freedoms, liberty and the American way of life we used to know.

Why the hell is the public crying out for a NON-POLITICIAN for office this time? The answer is obvious.


71 posted on 05/07/2016 4:39:50 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Innovative

The party was never conservative.


72 posted on 05/07/2016 4:56:49 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Innovative

“...conservatives...”

These are not conservatives.

These are neo-con Trotsky-ite “nation building” American imperialists.

Real (paleo) conservatives be aware of the difference.


73 posted on 05/07/2016 5:04:17 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Innovative

Establishment republicans have a hell of a nerve criticizing any candidate - especially Trump.

What have they done for conservatives since Ronald Reagan left office?

If Trump keeps his word on his top 4 promises he will have done 4 times as much for conservatives as all the republicans and so-called conservatives in congress and the senate have done for us in the last 27 years.

Think about how much ground the liberals have gained in that time.

And what have conservatives gained in the same time?

Republicans couldn’t (or wouldn’t) even stop the liberal onslaught when they had the presidency and a voting majority in both houses of the legislature.

If tthey had done their jobs when they had the chance scumbags like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama would have never been elected president.

How did Bill Clinton make it to the presidency?
Easy - remember “Read my lips, no new taxes!”?


74 posted on 05/07/2016 5:23:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Islam is Islam. Democracy is the train we ride to our ultimate victory. (Recep Erdogan))
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To: Jim Robinson
"Leon H. Wolf, writing on the conservative site Redstate.com"....

That is funny, JR. I don't know what "conservatives" this
guy thinks he's appealing to, but he doesn't speak for me.

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This is all "real" conservatives need to know:

Trump Applauded For Hiring Adviser With 'Deep Pro-Life Roots'
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/04/group-applauds-trump-for-hiring-adviser-with-deep-pro-life-roots/ ^ | May 4, 2016 | Kelly Picket / FR Posted by NKP_Vet

Pro-life organization Susan B. Anthony List praised Donald Trump for hiring John Mashburn as a campaign policy adviser, calling Mashburn an "excellent hire, especially for the pro-life movement and our legislative priorities."

"I have known and respected John Mashburn for many years," SBA president Marjorie Dannenfelser said in a statement. "He is a smart strategist with deep pro-life roots. John is well-respected across every issue set. For him, the life issue is foundational and one which helped draw him into politics."

"I have known and respected John Mashburn for many years," SBA president Marjorie Dannenfelser said in a statement. "He is a smart strategist with deep pro-life roots. John is well-respected across every issue set. For him, the life issue is foundational and one which helped draw him into politics."

Mashburn, a North Carolina native, who once worked w/ pro-life defender Jesse Helms, most recently worked as North Carolina Republican Rep. Thom Tillis's chief of staff. He has also served in the leadership offices of other senior congressional Republicans.

"If I were running for president, I would want John Mashburn as a top advisor, too. Congratulations on your new hire, Mr. Trump," Dannenfelser continued. "If elected, no doubt John Mashburn will serve you well as you fulfill your campaign promises to defund Planned Parenthood, advance and sign into law the popular Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, and appoint Justices to the bench who will protect and defend the Constitution." ####

75 posted on 05/07/2016 5:24:31 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp

Good points.. the Republican Party asked us to have faith in them as they ran Dole, McCain and Romney because of the boogeyman. They asked us to trust them by giving them a majority in the house and senate, and the threat of liberal Judges. What we got for that is more liberalism, 3 more liberal Judges and a party that is more liberal than the Democrats. I am being asked to vote by holding my nose and voting for Trump because Hillary is the boogeyman. And she might appoint more liberal judges. Guess what, whoever is elected will appoint more liberal judges because the Republicans won’t stop them. Trump did us a service by showing us what the RNC really is. However, Trump is not a conservative. I will not be tricked again into ‘trust me’, against the fight against the MacGuffin (boogeyman) after being tricked for 40 years. The RNC needs to go the way of the Whigs. A new, real conservative party needs to be birthed. Otherwise, by trying to reform a corrupt system, we are insuring a fatal blow for America’so future.


76 posted on 05/07/2016 5:26:34 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Plumberman27

Ryan should get out while he can before the voters throw him out. He’ll never truly support Trump. Should he “Come around,” it’ll be lip service, and nothing more. I hope he does lose in the district primary. I hope McCain gets the boot and any others who are a part of the DC cabal that need to go. Too bad Linda G. isn’t one of them, for the time being, anyway.


77 posted on 05/07/2016 5:28:55 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: richardtavor
Most sane people are voting FOR Trump. Not against the Witch which is a an added plus.
78 posted on 05/07/2016 5:32:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Proud_texan; Godebert; alloysteel; Waryone

>>But is social conservatism dead?

“Natural Law, Natural Rights, and American Constitutionalist”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3428384/posts

How did the wisdom of the fools who declared social conservatism dead work out in the context of Romans chapter 1?

Got Due Penalty?

Nature Rules.


79 posted on 05/07/2016 5:36:23 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Innovative

This conservative voted for Trump. Inspite of the lies, Trump is very popular, not disliked like the Nwo crowd wants everyone to believe.


80 posted on 05/07/2016 5:38:08 AM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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