Posted on 05/02/2016 10:27:03 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
(CNSNews.com) -- Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.
Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.
He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”
While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.”
“This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”
The transgendered person’s disorder, said Dr. McHugh, is in the person’s “assumption” that they are different than the physical reality of their body, their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.
This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” said Dr. McHugh. As a result, some states – California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts – have passed laws barring psychiatrists, “even with parental permission, from striving to restore natural gender feelings to a transgender minor,” he said.
The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”
And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a ‘satisfied’ but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs,” said Dr. McHugh.
The former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people “susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,” and the schools’ “diversity counselors” who, like “cult leaders,” may “encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery.”
Dr. McHugh also reported that there are “misguided doctors” who, working with very young children who seem to imitate the opposite sex, will administer “puberty-delaying hormones to render later sex-change surgeries less onerous – even though the drugs stunt the children’s growth and risk causing sterility.”
Such action comes “close to child abuse,” said Dr. McHugh, given that close to 80% of those kids will “abandon their confusion and grow naturally into adult life if untreated ….”
“’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.”
I don’t remember the details, so don’t hold me to it; but I think it was a problem with the SRY gene that they mentioned. See:
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/SRY#resources
http://www.embryology.ch/anglais/ugenital/molec02.html
http://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/Q05066
Ahh . . . hold the presses. I remembered the story incorrectly. The patient was only 23 years old and not late middle aged. Yes, it was a case of Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS). Here is the original story:
Does having a Y chromosome make someone a man?
http://www.isna.org/faq/y_chromosome
The gaystopo is going to chop this poor guy into pieces.
Your argument is irrelevant. Almost every man has the desire to mate with as many women as possible. Most men recognize that as destructive behavior and do not engage in it.
Whether by nature or (failure of) nurture someone has destructive sexual urges, they still have the responsibility to control and abstain from them.
You cannot definitively identify a biological cause in any case, only a correlation.
Live forever with the Lord.
“Sexual dimorphism, XX and XY, was selected by natural selection because sex, the genetic exchange between Male and Female - increases the fitness of species.”
True.
“The perversion of nature selected for worship by folks who abominate nature - Not. So. Much.”
True again.
“Got Due Penalty?”
Unknown meaning.
“Thus the plethora of STD’s whose association with certain, abominating, (but “inter-sexually” rationalized) behaviors is well documented by the CDC.”
That’s right, STDs are and always have cut a wide swath and played a significant role in human development. Inter-sexuality is an inherent part of the human biology and human condition. When looked at from the moral and/or religious viewpoint as the “abomination” about which you spoke, there are indeed major problems with immorality and the diseases relating to such immorality. Nonetheless there are millions of people who have lived transgendered lives do to the facts of their births through no personal fault of their own and managed to lead moral and religious lives, sometimes in a life long ignorance of their own transgendered nature. Stereotyping a whole group of people as being mentally ill in conflict with the biological evidence to the contrary because of the sins of a part of that group of people is an act for which the New Testament exists.
you have no way of knowing with any certainty what your own or “his/her biological reality of sex” is in actuality without a comprehensive biological testing beyond the scope of nearly al or all medical facilities.
Now you're just pulling "facts" out of your vociferously opinionated backside.
As part of the standard course of prenatal care suggested by her obstetrician, my wife and I had genetic analysis done on ourselves and our child back in 2005.
So the sort of analysis you're claiming to be inaccessible has been, in fact, an increasingly common part of prenatal care for quite a while.
http://www.google.com/search?q=prenatal+genetic+testing
But facts like those don't prop up the cause for the "community" of prideful activists, do they.
Relatively normal you say. What's their fitness as measured by reproductively viable offspring over multiple generations?
Most individuals in a bee hive never reproduce... well, until the queen stops laying anyhow.
Is that "normal", and what role do the related hormones play in that social behavior towards the fitness of the hive/(or the socially engineered human culture)?
“Now you’re just pulling “facts” out of your vociferously opinionated backside.”
“As part of the standard course of prenatal care suggested by her obstetrician, my wife and I had genetic analysis done on ourselves and our child back in 2005.”
“So the sort of analysis you’re claiming to be inaccessible has been, in fact, an increasingly common part of prenatal care for quite a while.”
Fine, then tell us how many copies of the DAX1 were found?
“But facts like those don’t prop up the cause for the “community” of prideful activists, do they.”
I never said or represented the biological reality would support or not support any activists for or against the LGBTQ bunch. I did point out that claiming ALL transgendered people must be mentally ill is contrary to human biology and human experience. I can also add that such stereotyping may be considered as contrary to Christian practices and the principles of the New Testament, if you are trying to bring in the relationship to Christian morality.
“Relatively normal you say. What’s their fitness as measured by reproductively viable offspring over multiple generations?’
“Most individuals in a bee hive never reproduce... well, until the queen stops laying anyhow.”
Are you trying to say a person who is not fertile enough to parent a child must perforce be mentally ill?
You do realize some transgendered and inersexed people are fertile and can produce children?
“Is that “normal”, and what role do the related hormones play in that social behavior towards the fitness of the hive/(or the socially engineered human culture)?”
That has always been an open question within the secular cultures. The MTF (Male-to-Female) priestesses and the FTM (Female-to-Male) people have played significant roles in past cultures. Within the Christian societies eunuchs have played significant roles in the culture/s despite their gender non-conformity. The social conventions are not necessarily reflective of the biological realities or the biological imperatives.
>>Unknown meaning.
Rom 1:27
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
NIV
>>an act for which the New Testament exists.
Luke 17:1-4
17 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. 2It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. 3 So watch yourselves.
"If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."
NIV
What do rebuke, repent, and forgive mean?
The New Testament documents God's plan in which forgiveness of sin is rendered by grace to those who repent and are forgiven in the Body of Christ.
"but woe to that person through whom they come"
What the "culture" of the pride-filled is doing is cleverly and deceptively perverting forgiveness of sin into unrepentant PERMISSION to sin -- and their perversion is rendered in the spirit of anti-Christ, not in the Truth.
“What the “culture” of the pride-filled is doing is cleverly and deceptively perverting forgiveness of sin into unrepentant PERMISSION to sin — and their perversion is rendered in the spirit of anti-Christ, not in the Truth.”
True, but that is not what we are talking about here. The point I made was how Freepers were indiscriminately condemning and ridiculing ALL transgendered people as being mentally ill without regard for their intersexed condition. With regard to the relationaship of Christianity to such transgendered persons see for two somewhat opposing examples:
What does the Bible say about hermaphrodites?
Answer: Babies that are born with both male and female sexual organs, or characteristics of both organs, are called hermaphrodites or intersex. A child who is in an intersexual state is classified in one of three categories: 1) true hermaphrodite – an infant born with both ovaries and testicles and has both male and female sex organs. 2) female pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic female with male external sex organs. 3) male pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic male with external sex organs that fail to develop properly, resulting in female or male/female physical characteristics. [ . . . . ]
It is very possible for a child born with both sex organs to grow up to have a healthy view of sexuality and successful relationships. From early on, the child should be taught how valuable, loved and accepted he is by his family and also by God. He or she is not a victim of divine judgment, but God has a plan for each one of us that will bring Him glory, as we can learn from a man who was healed by Jesus Christ:
“’Teacher,’ his disciples asked him, ‘why was this man born blind? Was it a result of his own sins or those of his parents?’ ‘It was not because of his sins or his parents’ sins,’ Jesus answered. ‘He was born blind so the power of God could be seen in him’” (John 9:2-3).
http://www.gotquestions.org/hermaphrodites.html
Southern Baptist Convention
On Transgender Identity
http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/2250/on-transgender-identity
“CISgendered, gotta love these new words and phrases the psychiatric community pull out of their collective butts. How they’re so intimidated by such a micro-minority. Actually, sometimes I self-identify as Mr. Spock and I’m proficient in the Vulcan Mind Meld. Yeah I’m a transterrestrial, where’s MY rights? ;)”
Cis is a word form that has been in use since 1888, so you must not have bothered to read the memo on it.
Transgendered people and intersexed people have been around ever since humans came into existence. Most public toilet facilities were used by both sexes or by one sex and the and the intersexed associated with that one sex for most of history. It has only been in the last century and the advent of widespread indoor public toilets and water closets that the differentiation of toilets by gender has become such a formidable issue and problem. If the public toilets had been built to be individual private facilities in the first place, it would have maintained centuries of prior practice and avoided a variety of safety issues for everyone concerned: children, women, intersexed women, intersexed men, transgendered women and men, men, and parents with babies and toddlers.
You never did answer the question how you were going to discriminate between the “pervs” you were going to assault and the others you were not going to assault?
“Your argument is irrelevant. Almost every man has the desire to mate with as many women as possible. Most men recognize that as destructive behavior and do not engage in it.”
Do they? True or not, it would certainly be interesting to see the scientific studies on that subject with an added investigation of gender roles included.
“Whether by nature or (failure of) nurture someone has destructive sexual urges, they still have the responsibility to control and abstain from them.”
I would tend to agree with you. however, I can see where there are researchers who would argue too much control had/has a negative effect upon human development. Then there are those people who argue that homosexuality was encouraged in the First World nations to curb the perceived threat of Global overpopulation and NWO dominance of global resources.
“You cannot definitively identify a biological cause in any case, only a correlation.”
I cannot discern exactly what you are referring to there. It can be said, however, that we do know for a fact that geneder behavior is determined by a number of factors ranging from the sex chromosome karyotype and other genetic transcriptors, hormones in the womb, exogenous exposures to hormones in the food supply and environment, hormones in medicines, and a variety of other factors. It is because the ability to discover the cause and nature of an individual instance of transgender physical and/or mental condition that makes it more or less problematic to determine which are and are not cause for concern with respect to claims of their being mentally ill with no regard to the biological realities and lack of mental illness.
Indeed
And he stressed that. He said once he got his psychological problems handled then the transgender’ (gender dysphoria) delusions ere no longer there
A couple of intersex people have shown up at the forums at catholic.com over the years, looking to see what advice the Church has for them. Sadly, there are no teachings or formal discussions on this. But again, it's a separate issue.
“The number of intersexed people is pretty small, so probably not that many. Of course, there’s no way to know.”
The statistical reports generated by the medical community have been reported there are more than enough to well outnumber the world’s population of Jewish people. The Jewish Virtual Library reports the world Jewish population to be about 13,900,000 people. Other sources claim a variety of numbers depending on definitions and who is counting at around 500,00 to 3,000,000 million in the United States. On average there is said to be one or more intersexed persons, meaning physical non-conformities in the genitalia alone, on average to be present in every county in the United States and in most communities. This does not take into account any real or imaginary cases of persons who believe they are suffering only from gender dysphoria and not an otherwise physical intersexed condition.
“Besides trangender <> intersex.
A couple of intersex people have shown up at the forums at catholic.com over the years, looking to see what advice the Church has for them. Sadly, there are no teachings or formal discussions on this. But again, it’s a separate issue.”
Over many years this subject about transgendered people has arisen in many discussion like this one. There were in fact a number of resources that were mentioned in each discussion. In one case a Catholic priest advised that the Church di not prohibit or condemn crossdressing or crossdressers so long as no sinful conduct was included such as prostitution, infidelity, homosexuality, masturbation, deceit, crimes, and so forth. However, transsexual sex changes that involved unnatural modifications of the God given body not for medical need apart from psychiatric need were prohibited. Current Catholic Doctrine is currently presented in the following:
http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=56646
Sure, there have presumably always been a few hermaphrodites as, essentially, biological mistakes. But we really have no idea how early humans understood the sexes. I am pretty sure they would not have had “intersex” identities, however. That seems like a projection back from modern conceits.
Sure, there have presumably always been a few hermaphrodites as, essentially, biological mistakes. But we really have no idea how early humans understood the sexes. I am pretty sure they would not have had “intersex” identities, however. That seems like a projection back from modern conceits.
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