Posted on 05/01/2016 4:50:43 PM PDT by Calpublican
As a 5th generation Republican and Lifelong Conservative the political events of recent years have been frustrating. None are more frustrating than this election cycle.
We prayed and hoped for a real Conservative to counter the leftward pull of Obama. We wanted someone to pull the country to the right so we could possibly be, at least, center America, where we typically like to land in national politics.
We have had several Conservative candidates this cycle, but many who have called themselves "Conservative" have coalesced behind a man who is the farthest thing from Conservative as is imaginable and why? Because of FEAR.
Fear of the other, fear of violence, fear of immigrants. These are valid fears, but when fear turns to hate judgement is clouded. That is what has happened. Instead of standing by principles, "Conservatives" have been drawn to hateful rhetoric. Even after Trump has disavowed his own rhetoric to the NYT& others, the seed has been planted. If one wonders how despots rise to power, this is how. Exactly.
Trump's positions are all Liberal/Leftwing, some experts speculate Neo- Proto- or Ur-Fascist as well . He did not magically become Conservative and he has given ample evidence of this---repeatedly. But the fearful will not or cannot hear it.
If Trump is the nominee which Liberal will I choose? I choose Hillary and will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for president. Why? Because if Trump wins, pretending to be Conservative, he will destroy Conservatism for 20 yrs. He is not pulling down-ticket Conservatives so his administration would be Liberal to the max.
It is a difficult choice but I am absolutely convinced it is the correct choice. If I have to vote Liberal, I vote strategically Liberal.
He’s rode the lighting folks.
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A thoughtful Opus. I have thought about these well expressed issues but have come to opposite conclusions. I am considered the world’s biggest cynic, Never held Trump in very high regard, so I made an effort to watch each daily video available on him actually speaking, going back to last summer. My growing impression is the guy is so much smarter than I ever gave him credit for. I think he knows exactly what is going on and is much more conservative than anyone gives him credit for. Voting D is a burn down the house strategy to speed up the natural societal breakdown that is the case based on our current course. If Trump is elected and he is a fraud, the result will be the same. So in this case, I am not the greatest cynic, rather I am optimistic that the country will have one last chance to change course but you need a dominant personality to execute it. The country doesn’t have another decade. Things have to change now, and still, it is going to be a sh—Storm. Protect yourselves accordingly.
You took it as an insult because you must have a chip on your shoulder ... the hallmark of US politics as of late.
Traditional political scientists say you should ask voters to vote for you. A smaller group believes it’s better to insult as many potential supporters as you possibly can.
Just a short story I am proud of from my own party work. In 2000 Bush lost New Mexico to Gore by 300 votes. One villain was a snowstorm on election day in the southeastern corner of the state which is oil country, the most Republican part of the state.
So Bush created an incredible state organization to win the state in 2004. As part of the effort I agreed to take the day off from work on election day and drove to Hobbs, where I saw the most organized effort I’ve ever seen in any election . Volunteers everywhere. They had identified their supporters who didn’t vote often and marked them off as they voted at their precincts. I was assigned to a rural area with addresses of people who would vote for Bush but hadn’t voted yet. They sure had their demographics right. These were trailer homes with horses in the back. No Gore voters, but any voters at all? Most everyone told me they had already voted. How many of them said “oh crap, I need to go vote after I left?” How many votes was I worth to Bush? Who knows? I would guess a dozen or so. It was pretty depressing because I remember listening to Hannity on the radio and he was saying the exit polls were showing a big Kerry win but keep working anyway. I did and did my little part to help Bush win NM by 5,000 votes.
I could have worked for Bush, I could have sat it out. Those were my only choices. I wasn’t going to vote for Kerry.
I’m referring to the 100 different insults directed at the original poster.
You are no doubt lurking and reading the righteous indignation directed your way. It is most unfortunate that you chose to go off the deep end. Suicide is also a great sin. Selecting hildabeast is akin to committing suicide of your own soul. I fall to see the honor or dignity in that choice. I will pray for your healing.
DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT’YA WHERE THE GOOD LORD SPLIT’YA.
A vote for Hillary. That’s demonic. Bernie’s a wretch, but HIllary is evil. No way in hell would I vote for that gangster.
If you are even considering voting for Hillary you are no part conservative and have been kidding yourself.
OP sez:
If Trump is the nominee which Liberal will I choose? I choose Hillary and will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for president.
Cal”republican” clearly said he’s gone over to the dark side.
In the early 1990s, it was purchased and is now run by Donald Trump. It has been a success from the day it opened over 300,000 skaters glided across the ice in its first year of operation.>snip<
Daily Rates Mon Thur/ Fri Sun Adults $ 10.00/ $14.00 Children $ 5.25/ $ 5.50 Seniors $ 4.75/ $ 8.25 Skate Rentals $ 6.00 Lock Rental $ 4.25/ $ 6.00 Spectator Fee $ 5.00
It is now a Trump owned business. This wasn't done just out of the goodness of his heart. At 300K skaters at the senior weekday rate (the lowest) thats over 1.4 million a year, and the actual gate is likely multiples of that. Source:Wollman Rink
If you’re not afraid right now, there’s something wrong with you.
Is there anything wrong with making money? I think that is the point of being in business isn’t it?
OP sez:
If Trump is the nominee which Liberal will I choose? I choose Hillary and will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for president.
Calrepublican clearly said hes gone over to the dark side.
If OP has never voted Democrat in his/her entire life, why are you giving up on him/her? There’s a lot of mourning going on. Convince potential supporters to support your side. Don’t throw 100 insults at them.
There’s six months to go before the election. There is a lot Trump can do to win support from people like the OP. There’s plenty Trump supporters can do too. Can we think of something that will help more than calling the person 100 different names? He/she obviously does not want to vote for Hillary if she’s never voted Democrat before.
Starting with Quisling Lyin-Ted
**Trump’s positions are all Liberal/Leftwing**
Not true in my opinion.
No kidding, that is what it sounded like to me too. A lot of that “If I can’t have my guy I will vote to destroy the country” in that message.
You sound very pious so I will give you a blessing...
Let the door knob hit ya’ where the good Lord split ya’
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