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Limbaugh, Beck, Levin, Loesch – They’re Not Obtuse, They’re Not Opportunistic, They’re Liars…
The Last Refuge ^ | April 30, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 04/30/2016 4:05:01 PM PDT by monkapotamus

As a general principle no conversations have involved more varied opinions than discussions about the supposed “conservative” media and their seeming cognitive dissonance when it comes to issues surrounding Senator Ted Cruz.

Some people think these voices were just hoodwinked by Cruz and now their ego won’t permit them to admit the falsehood. Others think the pundits are too close to the candidate to see the inherent issues and contradictions; some propose their punditry is connected to financial motives. Perhaps it’s a combination therein, but many people just can’t figure it out...

All of those aforementioned voices know this fact. Limbaugh, Levin, Beck and Loesch are not stupid, they know the construct of how this all came down.

You see, it takes an intentional action to ignore the truth of how Senator Ted Cruz created, supported, and advocated for Trade Promotion Authority. An advocate cannot claim a position fundamentally disconnected from reality without intentionally desiring to do so.

That’s why these pundit voices cannot be just merely making mistakes, flawed thinking, or errors in judgment. It’s not intellectual dishonesty at play here, it’s just flat out ordinary dishonesty.

Lying.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; blaze; cnsrvtvtreehouse; corruption; cruz; danaloesch; election2016; glennbeck; globalism; immigration; levin; limbaugh; lyinlevin; marklevin; newyork; radiodemagogue; rushlimbaugh; soldout; sundance; talkradio; theblaze; tpp; trump; tyranny
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To: ozzymandus

Rush ‘might’ survive all of this, the others will probably not.


21 posted on 04/30/2016 4:17:31 PM PDT by Enduro Guy (Trump/??????? 2016)
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To: cherry

You smell like a loser.


22 posted on 04/30/2016 4:17:44 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: monkapotamus

Lucifer is a fun guy, I watch the TV show. He likes women, partying and gets along with people. Cruz is no Lucifer, he is a phony religious
guy, he doesn’t want people to vote. He is as dishonest as Lucifer, just ask Doc Carson.

I figure Lyin Ted has violated at least 4 of the 10 commandments, but he is just as creepy as a pervert. He just stabbed John Kasich in the back.

So far Kasich, Rubio, Carson and Trump have called him a liar. Even Lucifer has a better reputation than Cruz for veracity.


23 posted on 04/30/2016 4:17:45 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Please. Pointing out every mispronunciation Trump makes and ignoring the substance of his speech is NOT agnostic.


24 posted on 04/30/2016 4:18:24 PM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: monkapotamus

25 posted on 04/30/2016 4:18:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (A brain eating Zombie locked in a room with Snarly/Scruz/Beck/Kasick would starve to death!!)
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To: monkapotamus
So the conservative media that has propelled conservatism over the last 25 years are liars? Are you serious? Did you read your post? Does it make any sense on any level? Is this really the way to promote Trump?

Again, Trump (our candidate) has to have conservatives to vote for him in November. The goal is to beat Hillary - or maybe a Hilldabeast win is your true goal. BEATING UP ON YOUR NATURAL ALLIES DOES NOT HELP TRUMP OR REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER!

26 posted on 04/30/2016 4:19:24 PM PDT by StoneWallJack
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To: monkapotamus

I still trust Rush. Listening to him these days, I think he’s been fair. He knows Trump personally so he has an opinion based in real experience. I’m an ex-Cruz supporter who changed to Trump so my opinion is that he isn’t a Cruzer.

Levin and Beck, on the other hand, are so over the top for Cruz that they’ve turned me off — and I’ve turned their shows off.


27 posted on 04/30/2016 4:20:53 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Trump/Cruz 2016!)
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To: FatherofFive

Cruz is a rock-solid constitutional conservative who will restore America to greatness.


Can you read? As thoroughly broken down in this article, the “rock solid constitutional conservative” campaigned in the United States Senate to enable the secret trade agenda of the most lawless POTUS in history.

Sorry, Ted Cruz the man does not match the “rock solid constitutional conservative” myth.


28 posted on 04/30/2016 4:21:14 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: FatherofFive

You just called Trump an economic illiterate - do you expect anyone to take the rest of what you say seriously? What’s Cruz then ? An economic imbecile perhaps? We know he can’t count to 1237.


29 posted on 04/30/2016 4:21:53 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Do you ever wonder they never questioned Obama’s eligibility over the years? I don’t...


30 posted on 04/30/2016 4:22:09 PM PDT by Enduro Guy (Trump/??????? 2016)
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To: StoneWallJack

It doesn’t matter if it’s 25 years or 25 minutes. Truth is truth. People on this site have been very disappointed by how these glorified DJs have acted lately.


31 posted on 04/30/2016 4:22:23 PM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: StoneWallJack

Again, Trump (our candidate) has to have conservatives to vote for him in November. The goal is to beat Hillary - or maybe a Hilldabeast win is your true goal. BEATING UP ON YOUR NATURAL ALLIES DOES NOT HELP TRUMP OR REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER!


You mean like: “Trump & Hillary are two sides of the same coin”? You know who says that over and over, right?


32 posted on 04/30/2016 4:22:58 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: monkapotamus

Rush was turned my stomach with these kind of lies:

1. Carson vote snatch defense despite CNN’s own published timeline

2. Megyn Kelly defense (have had “Megyn and Doug over” to my home)
3. Defended the Chicago protest where Cruz failed to uphold the First Amendment

4. Never corrected his Michelle Fields + Ben Shapiro defense over Lewandowski “grabgate” - stood with hoaxers

5. Giving that fat LOSER-LIAR and anti-Trump PAC sponsored-Erick Erickson access to the EIB Golden Microphone after his disgrace

6. Defended Cruz by saying he had no idea about the Melanie pictures in Utah when his campaign manager Jeff Roe paid for the distribution rights

7. Calling the Cruz delegate bribing “smart” and just part of a “strong ground game”

Never will believe Rush again...he is a sellout without a soul...


33 posted on 04/30/2016 4:23:31 PM PDT by CreviceTool (A Good Samaritan with a handgun saved my life...)
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To: StoneWallJack

Please tell us in what substantive way conservatism has been propelled?


34 posted on 04/30/2016 4:23:33 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: monkapotamus

Which Limbaugh? I haven’t listened to Rush in a long time, so I don’t know what he’s actually saying about Trump and Cruz. I have seen David Limbaugh on TV and he sounds like Baghdad Bob circa 2003.


35 posted on 04/30/2016 4:24:18 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: LongWayHome

Cruz flat out lied about the McConnell run-in....acted like he was lied to, that he misunderstood. Between the lies on trade & his vile stand with Blacklivesmatter & Moveon.org on the Friday night of the Chicago attack on Trump’s crowd he lost me, forever.


The TPA battle predates Trump’s candidacy. Cruz opened the door and Trump walked right through it.


36 posted on 04/30/2016 4:24:40 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: monkapotamus; Biggirl; rodguy911; Artcore; LS; wardaddy; maggief; bushwon; RoosterRedux; ...

As a general principle no conversations have involved more varied opinions than discussions about the supposed “conservative” media and their seeming cognitive dissonance when it comes to issues surrounding Senator Ted Cruz.

Some people think these voices were just hoodwinked by Cruz and now their ego won’t permit them to admit the falsehood. Others think the pundits are too close to the candidate to see the inherent issues and contradictions; some propose their punditry is connected to financial motives. Perhaps it’s a combination therein, but many people just can’t figure it out.

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Whatever the reason, and personally I don’t care one way or the other, one of the realities is their collective influence is marginalized – common sense people, former viewers and listeners, just laugh at them now.

However, historically pundits don’t care so much about influence as they do about affluence. When the money lessens or dries up, that’s when the opinion shifts…. just watch – it’s a guaranteed truism.

Glenn Beck did not lose his Fox TV show because of bad ratings, he lost it because Fox News couldn’t find advertisers for his show. If sponsors were willing to pay for Beck’s 5:00pm News Hour, he’d still be on TV. It was the financial boycotting that drove him out.

The financing in/around political campaigns (consulting is a billion dollar industry) know the ideology of punditry can be retained so long as their affluence is maintained.

This has led to speculation that broadcast punditry is being funded in part by political campaigns. There is a considerable amount of evidence to support this, as FEC documents reveal tens of millions spent via LLC’s connected to media enterprises.

Salem Media Communications is the biggest recipient of the Super-PAC and campaign cash by far – look up who their voices are and you’ll see the most visible members of the #NeverTrump campaign. Salem is followed by iHeart (Limbaugh), Resurgent (Erickson) and many more. The chairman of Glenn Beck’s Mercury One Charity, David Barton, is also in charge of Keep The Promise, Ted Cruz’s Super-PAC – the same super-PAC that gave Carly Fiorina $500k last year.

The anticipated problem when political groups fund political punditry is obvious. Candidate Donald Trump being in the race merely shines a brighter spotlight upon the issue.

Trump has a massive impact on this issue because: a.) he doesn’t purchase their opinion or play the payola game. b.) he can generate his own publicity; and most importantly c.) Trump has a larger support base than the political groups that do play this scheme.

The problem for the punditry class is this dichotomy creates a disconnect between the pundit and the majority of their audience. The pundit is selling one thing, the audience is supporting something entirely different. Sound familiar?

However, all of that being said – we don’t believe these voices are entirely stupid. Some of them are close to stupid as a circumstance of their ideology, but they’re not stupid as a general disposition. This group is intellectually dishonest by intent, not mistake.

Continue reading and save this gem!


37 posted on 04/30/2016 4:24:59 PM PDT by onyx (You're hto be a cryaere posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Williams

Limbaugh is a fraud. His ratings are tanking, his show has been bumped to lesser stations in big media markets, and he has clearly become an increasingly obnoxious mouthpiece for the GOPe. I understand his contract will be up soon.

I could be wrong. Maybe he’s just calling it in until the primaries are finished.


38 posted on 04/30/2016 4:25:23 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: StoneWallJack

Don’t waste your time with these people. Remember, none so blind....etc, etc.


39 posted on 04/30/2016 4:27:44 PM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: monkapotamus

Lying liars lying about Lyin’ Ted


40 posted on 04/30/2016 4:27:44 PM PDT by bigbob
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