Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama to make 'smart guns' push (cops say they don’t want to be guinea pigs)
Politico ^ | 04/28/16 | Sarah Wheaton

Posted on 04/28/2016 5:23:07 PM PDT by TroutStalker

President Barack Obama is opening a new front in the gun control debate, readying a big push for so-called smart gun technology — an initiative that the gun lobby and law enforcement rank and file is already mobilizing against.

As early as Friday, Obama is set to formally release findings from the Defense, Justice and Homeland Security Departments on ways to spur the development of guns that can be fired only by their owner, according to industry and gun control sources. Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett is slated to preview the announcement for stakeholders on Thursday afternoon.

It’s an intensification of an effort kicked off in January, when Obama ordered federal agencies to explore such technology and report back, as part of his series of executive actions for “common sense” gun reforms.

While the “smart gun” element of the actions drew little attention earlier this year, critics are gearing up to fight back against the possibility that such guns could be required for government firearms purchases.

A source familiar with the plans said that type of mandate isn’t on tap right now, but critics are still worried the administration is laying the groundwork for such a move. Among the biggest skeptics are cops worried about testing an unproven technology on the streets.

“Police officers in general, federal officers in particular, shouldn’t be asked to be the guinea pigs in evaluating a firearm that nobody’s even seen yet,” said James Pasco, executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police. “We have some very, very serious questions.”

Pasco said he’s already been vocal about his concerns in private conversations with administration officials and he plans to keep up the drumbeat even as he waits for an official announcement. The gun lobby, meanwhile, is prepared to capitalize on genuine uncertainty among law enforcement about the not-ready-for-prime-time technology in order to limit enthusiasm for major new government investments.

The concept of smart guns is hardly new: researchers have been trying to develop electronic systems to make a gun fire only by an authorized user for almost three decades, with on-again, off-again help from the federal government.

It wouldn’t prevent most mass shootings, gun crimes or suicides — currently the biggest driver of gun deaths. However, they could cut down on the roughly 500 deaths each year from accidental shootings, especially by kids. Advocates also point to findings that most youth suicides are committed with a parents’ weapon, and instances where officers’ own guns are stolen in a scuffle and used to shoot them cause about 1 in 10 police deaths.

But a reliable system has yet to hit the mainstream market. While technology is only getting better and more accessible — think fingerprint ID for unlocking an iPhone — government efforts to promote smart gun technology have been at best halting and at worst counterproductive when they prompt political backlash.

Advocates accuse the gun lobby of creating a chilling effect by casting any government embrace of smart guns as a mandate and driving boycott threats against stores that have tried to sell the prototypes.

Entrepreneurs and researchers who’ve worked on smart guns say that government will have to take the lead on creating a viable market and showing the guns work when police and military use them — “not the bully pulpit, but the buying power of these public agencies,” as Don Sebastian of the New Jersey Institute for Technology put it in an interview.

Sebastian’s 15-year-old effort to develop a gun that recognizes an individual’s unique grip has been essentially “mothballed” since federal funding dried up in 2010, and his collaborations with the Army’s small arms research division, Picatinny Arsenal, petered out about a year ago.

“As long as there’s a belief that there’s no market or ability to get into the market, nobody’s going to invest in this,” Sebastian said.

That’s why he’s hopeful incentives from the Obama administration will restart his and others’ efforts. As part of his January executive actions, Obama directed agencies to “consider whether including such technology in specifications for acquisition of firearms would be consistent with operational needs.”

While it doesn’t appear Obama is planning to issue an executive order mandating smart gun purchases for the federal government, the gun industry’s fears of such mandates from governments do have firm roots in reality.

In 2002, a New Jersey law required that all gun shops sell only personalized guns within three years of a proven product hitting the market. To avoid triggering New Jersey’s countdown, gun rights activists pressured retailers not to sell any version, even harassing stores in California and Maryland that tried to sell one.

Recognizing the unintended consequence, New Jersey Democrats tried to loosen up the rule recently, requiring New Jersey retailers to simply include a smart gun in their stock once a version is on the market, but Republican Gov. Chris Christie, in the thick of his presidential bid, killed it with a pocket veto in January.

“The gun lobby has put the word out that anyone who works in this space is basically persona non grata,” said Tim Daly, managing director for guns and crime policy at the liberal Center for American Progress.

Gun rights groups, including the National Rifle Association, are not against funding research for smart guns or putting them on shelves. But the NRA does oppose any law that would prohibit people from buying a gun that doesn’t have personalized technology. And its website casts the motives for a mandate in ominous terms: “as a way to prohibit the manufacture of traditional handguns, raise the price of handguns that would be allowed to be sold and, presumably, to imbed into handguns a device that would allow guns to be disabled remotely.”

Safety is the only motive that advocates of smart guns cite, and they insist they just want to fund research so that, one day, consumers can have a choice.

Protecting officers from being shot with their own stolen gun was a top rationale when the conversation about smart guns first started nearly 30 years ago.

But at this point, the Obama administration already has frayed ties with rank-and-file cops, many of whom didn’t think the president took their side in his reactions to police violence and protests like those in Ferguson, Missouri. Pasco compared the push for smart guns to the decision to limit local departments’ access to surplus military equipment.

“They sit down among themselves and decide what is best for law enforcement, but from a political standpoint, and then tell officers they’re doing it for their benefit,” Pasco said.

Of the 330,000 officers in his union, Pasco said, “I have never heard a single member say what we need are guns that only we can fire,” noting that there might be moments in close combat when an officer would need to use a partner’s weapon or even the suspect’s.

“There’s a legitimate question right now whether smart gun technology will work for policemen” said Stephen P. Teret, a Johns Hopkins University professor who studied how airbag rules impact safety before he turned his focus to gun violence. “Some of the concerns might be overblown.”

Teret is convinced that across society, smart guns’ lifesaving potential likely outweighs the risks.

“We need to put smart guns in the hands of some policemen to essentially run the experiment” he said, stressing that only officers who volunteer should be signed up.

Like the debate on guns broadly, law enforcement leadership, which has been a key ally for gun control advocates, tends to be more open than their underlings to giving smart guns a try.

The technology is “intriguing,” said Louis Dekmar, police chief in LaGrange, Georgia, and vice president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. “But the jury’s still out.”

He added, “The more complicated you make the weapon, the more likely you are to have a failure.” Dekmar said he’d “certainly be open” to having his officers test the guns under limited circumstances and hailed their potential to protect officers whose guns are taken.

San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr told “60 Minutes” last year that smart guns are a “no-brainer,” especially for his plainclothes cops who don’t wear special holsters.

The administration also appears to be moving forward on other elements of Obama’s gun actions beyond the high-profile effort to subject more gun sales to background checks, which took effect immediately.

Obama also ordered the Social Security Administration to start writing regulations that could bar some beneficiaries from buying a gun if they’ve been deemed mentally incapacitated. It could face a legal challenge, depending on the final wording, and advocates who work closely with the White House anticipate those details could come out on Friday, too.

Obama also called for an upgrade to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and that’s showing signs of progress. The FBI plans to debut the “New NICS,” late this summer, according to a notice sent to retailers through the National Shooting Sports Federation on Wednesday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/obama-smart-gun-technology-222574#ixzz47AdiYgc8 Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; police; smartguns
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-58 next last
To: TroutStalker
Some police officer will get killed when confronted and his smart gun lost its smart and would fire. If I had to depend on this shi!, I would learn how to throw a knife with deadly accuracy. Probably be safer.
21 posted on 04/28/2016 5:39:40 PM PDT by Logical me
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

Please . . . Valerie Jarrett IS the president . . . she is NOT an advisor. Obozo doesn’t do anything that she doesn’t script or write for our (p)resident jackass.


22 posted on 04/28/2016 5:40:51 PM PDT by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker
I wish someone would remind him it's still the Washington Redskins.

Nice job getting that changed.

Loser.

23 posted on 04/28/2016 5:41:37 PM PDT by A Cyrenian (Don't worry about stuffing the bus or filling the fridge. Try filling the Church.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

Make that plural, and include the Supreme Court justices.


24 posted on 04/28/2016 5:41:43 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

Will work great on Chicago streets.


25 posted on 04/28/2016 5:41:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

BTTT


26 posted on 04/28/2016 5:44:05 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

EMP = Cops Disarmed


27 posted on 04/28/2016 5:45:19 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

Smart Gun ...

Is that like a Sponge Gun?

Get shot and ... OH, That SMARTS!!!


28 posted on 04/28/2016 5:46:04 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Scrambler Bob

What happens when a Cop shoots himself, ‘cleaning’ his smart gun?


29 posted on 04/28/2016 5:46:38 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

OT, but I just heard on the news he’s letting more refugees in. “It’s the right thing to do.” I thought yeah after he and Hillary trashed Libya and we had a part in Syria.


30 posted on 04/28/2016 5:48:02 PM PDT by Aliska ("No bank is too big to fail, and no executive is too powerful to jail." HRC 1/24/16)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

Does obozo think guns have an expiration date? I’ve seen guns well over 100 yrs old function well.


31 posted on 04/28/2016 5:48:02 PM PDT by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

I will be sooooo glad when ‘smart’ this and ‘smart’ that leaves our lexicon. It means ‘socialist stupid’.


32 posted on 04/28/2016 5:49:16 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

Anything that an electro magnetic pulse can render useless... Should not be used, period.


33 posted on 04/28/2016 5:49:16 PM PDT by Democrats hate too much
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

WE need one more thing like this to youtube so it can be disabled.


34 posted on 04/28/2016 5:52:41 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker; All

“instances where officers’ own guns are stolen in a scuffle and used to shoot them cause about 1 in 10 police deaths.”

False. Not even close.

In the last 10 years, the average number of officers killed with their own gun is 2.2. The average of all officers feloniously killed, according to the FBI UCR numbers, is 50. That translates to 4.4% of officers feloniously killed in the last 10 years have been killed with their own weapons.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/12/officers-killed-with-own-gun-vs.html


35 posted on 04/28/2016 5:52:51 PM PDT by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

yes, forcing our police to wear video worked great. it reduced false complaints and saving the police department money and time in investigating complaints. now they want to police to stop using video’s on duty. Obama Thugs want the ability to over take a police office using a fake gun.


36 posted on 04/28/2016 5:53:19 PM PDT by StCloudMoose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

People! Executive Orders can only apply to members of the Executive Branch. They are not law.


37 posted on 04/28/2016 5:58:06 PM PDT by GingisK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker

And the NSA will be able to take full control of your firearm at any time, ala Michael Hasting’s Mercedes.

At that point, guns will really be jumping up and killing people.


38 posted on 04/28/2016 5:59:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TroutStalker
Smart guns. yeah, real smart. sure.
39 posted on 04/28/2016 5:59:34 PM PDT by RC one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NewHampshireDuo; Democrats hate too much

EMP pulse. NO ARMY


40 posted on 04/28/2016 6:13:20 PM PDT by alpo (Resist we much)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-58 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson