Posted on 04/26/2016 6:51:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
My local congressional district became one of those battlegrounds that we see playing out across the country, as Ted Cruz supporters outflank Donald Trump backers at the little-known, little-attended Republican Party meetings to select delegates to the national convention. Here's one delegate's story of how it all went down.
Q: Who won the district? If Trump won it, why didn't pro-Trump delegates win at the meeting?
A: The primary dictates how the delegates are to vote on the first ballot. It doesn't dictate who the people are that are elected to represent the convention body at the RNC.
Q: Did any Trump supporters show up? How did they take the results?
A: I would estimate that of all the delegates casting votes, approximately 20% to 25% were Trump supporters. They were understandably upset that their slate did not get approved by the convention body. I spent most of the morning explaining to the leader of their group exactly what was going on and how things were going to move forward. I wanted to make sure they were comfortable with understanding the process.
Q: Why do you think the results went down the way they did?
A: The delegates wanting to support Trump were just late getting involved in the process. I don't think the campaign fully understood how important the actual delegates could be if it came down to a brokered convention. Once it became obvious that the convention may go that route, it was too late to start the process. The delegate process started with mass precinct meetings in February. In February it looked like Trump would easily walk away with the nomination.
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Wow. That's Gosh, whatta concept! Voting. Why can't we leave everything to The Nobles, and cherish our lives as good little Serfs?
There, there little Villein. Go about your daily business, give us our Tribute, and things will go well for you.
If not, we ride in with swords and massacre you.
The crap you advocate is the entire reason my ancestors turned on their English overlords and shot them, thus creating America. Maybe you're in the wrong country, alien.
Let’s say a state votes. This is hypothetical. Let’s say Cruz gets forty-six percent. Trump gets thirty-two percent. Kasich gets the rest.
The delegation is selected. It consists of one-hundred percent diehard Trump supporters.
Given your position, you have no choice but to say that’s fair. Which only means one thing: Cruz has destroyed your moral compass.
Our free republic was built on states rights. As a strong supporter of the 10th Amendment, and equally strong advocate for repealing the 17th Amendment, I am satisfied with the current delegate selection process that leans heavily on states.
The problem today is corruption, incompetence, and cronyism in Washington DC, not the sovereign states. I therefore don’t want republican elites in DC dictating primary rules to the states.
Be careful what you wish for.
See my post #84.
Unreal how closed minded people can get. They get stuck staring at one tree for so long they get so cross-eyed and think the fuzzy thing they see is the whole forest.
The layer that in theory is supposed to prevent mob rule has become the mob rule. That’s where Colorado is, elitist mob rule. The system in Colorado has become exactly what it was supposed to prevent!! No other way to look at it. Then people think we ought to get on our knees and worship the mutation. What a small picture view of what’s really going on.
LOLOL!! Trump has been shoving that back. He did it to Cruz during the debates. Amazing Cruz left himself open like that, but it seems par for the course for Ted. Zero strategic thinking skills.
“Are you 100% sure Mr. Trump will win 1237 on the first ballot? What happens if he doesn’t? Is he prepared? Are you?
Sen. Cruz is. So is his team.”
Oily Felito is prepared for nothing but political oblivion.
Your scenario doesn’t quite fit. In most cases, the local state process requires delegates to be bound to a specific candidate on the first ballot. So your “diehard Trump supporters” are free to vote how they and/or their constituents support on any subsequent ballot. In my view that’s fair. Because if all delegates are bound on all ballots, there is no way to select a nominee if no candidate won a majority of delegates during the primary.
The beauty of our republic is there are 50 sovereign states and a few territories. All of whom would not send 100% Trump loyalists to the GOP convention. Especially if the popular vote was as you described.
And that isn't a disconnect?
If only that were true, but it isn't California being a direct contradiction to your premise.
The last line of my prior post nailed it.
Nope. The answer to 8+11 is 19.
“The pattern” is a trap into answering 8+11 wrong. Wrong answers on the middle two sets the trap. There are no multiplication signs anywhere in the series. The picture is posted with the comment “only one in 1000 will get it right”. Way more than 1 in 1000 have answered 40 and 96.
It’s an amazing demonstration how to influence people into giving a logically wrong answer based on fantasy, then arguing the wrong answer is right. No wonder our country and the world is so screwed up.
Of course it is. It’s a corruption of what the delegate system was intended to be.
Rush has really changed these last few years. He only cares about himself and his money. He has hardly spoken out about the genocide of Christians in the Middle East, if at all. As military members and their families were getting screwed over Obama policies and Republican led budget cuts, Rush sided with screwing the military. His brother David seems to have much more character than he does.
Trump is bringing many disaffected people out to vote. This is a movement and a re-alignment. Politics is a lagging indicator. The country is moving in a very different direction. Conservative vs liberal is over. (conservatives lost, btw--NEVER conserved one thing for fear of being called a racist, bigot, etc)
Then you have no clue as to the reason the Revolution happened in the first place. I don’t hold it against you, you are probably a result of the public education system.
The beauty of a free republic is if you don't like California you are free to move to one of the other 49 states more to your liking.
An all-powerful central government is what I fear.
Okay. Well, I never said rules can’t be changed, but the Republican Party is not gonna do it. They might be forced into a revision of their rules to be applied in future elections. Which was my point.
Again...The only thing Trump can accomplish with the nomination would be to expose to everyone that there are rules. And if anyone wants to run for President as a Republican, they do so agreeing that they are bound by those rules.
And it isn’t wrong thinking to understand why they’re not changing their rules. It has nothing whatsoever to do with a math puzzle.
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