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Soviet Engineers Tested Bulletproof Cockpits—With People Inside the Cockpits
Popular Mechanics ^ | Apr 19, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 04/23/2016 6:39:47 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

The Mi-28 attack helicopter was developed by the Soviet Union during the Cold War as an answer to America's AH-64 Apache. Nicknamed "Havoc" by NATO, it was designed to kill NATO tanks and armored vehicles. As such, the Havoc needed to be able to take hits—even to the cockpit—and keep flying.

Despite the similarity between the Havoc and the Apache, we're pretty sure that American helicopter designers didn't test the Apache's armored cockpit by shooting machine guns at it—with people inside.

Yes, as the video shows, Soviet designers actually put a person inside a mock Mi-28 Havoc, then fired a number of different weapons at the armored glass. A number of guns appear to be trained at the glass, from what appear to be puny 7.62x39 rounds from an AK-47 all the way to a KPV 14.5-millimeter anti-aircraft heavy machine gun.

The exact composition of the Mi-28's glass armor is unknown, but it's alleged to be between 1.7 to 2.1 inches thick. The glass is probably made of alternating layers of laminated glass and polycarbonate. Only two things are for certain: the cockpit could really taking a beating, and being part of military testing in the Soviet Union was probably not the most fun job in the world.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; bulletproof; helicopter; mi28; russia; ussr
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1 posted on 04/23/2016 6:39:47 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There are two examples of flying iron tub planes I can think of. The old P-47 Jug and the A-10 Warthog.


2 posted on 04/23/2016 6:41:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In America, test pilots try guns.

In Russia, guns test the pilots.


3 posted on 04/23/2016 6:42:21 AM PDT by mkjessup (Cruz is an oily crap weasel who sold out to the GOPe and his deluded cultists need to wake-TF up.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why not put a dummy in the cockpit? or no one?

did it have to be tested during flight for some reason.

this makes no sense


4 posted on 04/23/2016 6:43:29 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This is nothing compared to the Nedelin Catastrophe. Yes, this rocket fuel is dangerous, but we'll seat our chief designers, scientists, and military VIPs at the launch pad, anyway.

Rumor has it, that was a CIA op.

5 posted on 04/23/2016 6:50:56 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: dp0622

It makes a lot of sense if you understand the evil mindset of communists.


6 posted on 04/23/2016 6:52:37 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: dp0622

They may very well have done all those tests, now they were doing a final test.

Is the author saying that the US helicopters were sent out without ever having a real fire test, and that the first real test with real people was done on the battlefield?


7 posted on 04/23/2016 6:55:47 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: edpc
"Rumor has it, that was a CIA op."

LOL

The CIA works hard to make sure there's a rumor that they did damn near anything and everything that happens except the half of what they've actually done that backfires badly.

8 posted on 04/23/2016 6:59:49 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: dp0622
this makes no sense

It makes sense if the occupant of the cockpit is the "quality assurance" manager who signed off on the thing meeting specifications. It increases motivation to make sure it's made right.

9 posted on 04/23/2016 7:00:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

That is one butt ugly aircraft.


10 posted on 04/23/2016 7:03:56 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Rashputin

Yeah I thought was hilarious too.

Nedelin and his merry band of hopeless techs were more then capable of blowing themselves up without covert help. It’s almost comical because Nedelin himself had no business being anywhere near a hypergolic launch vehicle and certainly had no idea what a sequencer was.


11 posted on 04/23/2016 7:12:09 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: dp0622
Why not put a dummy in the cockpit? or no one?

In Mother Russia test dummies are expensive, life is cheap.

12 posted on 04/23/2016 7:15:59 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Oldexpat

It’s long been held by some of the flying community that helicopters do not, in fact, fly.

They’re just so ugly, the earth repels them.


13 posted on 04/23/2016 7:18:21 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (Smile. It'll drive people nuts trying to figure out what you know or have done.)
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To: Oldexpat

It, like the Apache, probably looks a whole lot better from behind, as it is flying AWAY from you!


14 posted on 04/23/2016 7:21:57 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: dp0622

This wasn’t a “test” at all. It is a pure psyops demonstration aimed at Rissia’s foe’s pilots.

They knew with certainty the cockpit wouldn’t fail because it had been tested a zillion times during development and early production.


15 posted on 04/23/2016 7:26:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Russians aren’t stupid. They weren’t testing - they were demonstrating it. They already knew very well it could stop bullets when they put a person in it.

It was probably an old Soviet “marketing” video intended to get the approval of some high level apparatchiks, or show off what the factory had developed.


16 posted on 04/23/2016 7:28:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Geez. I hope the get double time (or double vodka).


17 posted on 04/23/2016 7:29:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush Limbaugh: Jeb Bush could mount a convention comeback)
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To: mkjessup

And then there is this:

Russians are coming! Test a new suit for the soldiers. Girl tester.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d7c_1461382705

But not this:
Russian hand held thermobaric weapon
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c71_1461359465


18 posted on 04/23/2016 7:30:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: dp0622

“Why not put a dummy in the cockpit? or no one?
did it have to be tested during flight for some reason.
this makes no sense”

Well, it sure would instill a sense of confidence.


19 posted on 04/23/2016 7:31:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: dp0622
Why not put a dummy in the cockpit? or no one?

There was a dummy in the cockpit.

20 posted on 04/23/2016 7:35:50 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Ted Cruz was the man!)
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