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Where Donald Trump’s support really comes from
The Economist ^ | Apr 20th 2016

Posted on 04/22/2016 6:59:38 AM PDT by detective

MOST analysis of Donald Trump’s support in the primary elections has focused on his appeal to poorer, working-class white voters, who are assumed to have lost the most to globalisation and are more open to his particular brand of populist politics. But his victory in the New York Republican primary on April 19th underscored his wider support across the party’s base. Mr Trump took 61% of the vote overall (the first time he has gained over 50%) winning across all demographic groups. That was to be expected in his home state. However, averaging out his support in all state primaries (where exit polling is available) shows that richer and better educated voters form as big a part of Mr Trump’s support base as those at the lower end of the income and education scales.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; newyork; presidentdonaldtrump; trump; winning
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To: inpajamas
NY 2016 primary results by the numbers:

Don't tell anyone that the 3 million plus voters registered as 'INDEPENDENTS" were NOT allowed to vote in the primary.

Only Dems in the Democratic primary... Republicans in the Republican primary.

The General election in November has NO such rules.

121 posted on 04/23/2016 8:08:11 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Brilliant

Nope!!

Trump supporters may not be universally stupid or even uninformed.

They have been mesmerized by a candidate they somehow think will do everything he has promised and make America and their lives great.

It cannot be explained by any rational means.

I see an odd bombastic dude with an inability to express himself clearly. A guy who looks funny and talks funny and whose entire history is one of business corruption and failure.

A guy whose personal history is fodder for the tabloids.

A guy who doesn’t keep his promises and who cannot keep a thought in his mind for two days straight.

They see a savior. Go figure. I can’t.


122 posted on 04/23/2016 8:11:47 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura
>They see a savior. Go figure. I can’t.

Considering you can't admit that the “Smartest guy around” Cruz makes mistakes and continue to defend his biggest blunders... your judgment might be impaired.

123 posted on 04/23/2016 8:13:53 AM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: PapaBear3625

Your post:

“The well educated middle class is seeing jobs going to H1Bs, and seeing their children having to take on huge loan burdens, while minority students get free rides. They are angry too.”

That may be a clue to the Trump Phenomenon. Trump tapped into a lot of anger in the country that people felt helpless to do anything about.

Trump promised to do something about it.

It felt good. At last, someone who understood and would help.

I get the initial response to Trump.

What I don’t get is people totally refusing to look at the real character and history of the man after we learned more about him.


124 posted on 04/23/2016 8:18:10 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: detective

Hillary Clinton has a loyal base. They ARE democrats remember and democrats do not mind corruption in their leaders as long as they get their entitlements.

To say that Trump has undergone a thorough attack is ridiculous.

No news outlet has gone after him at all on the many, many areas in which he is vulnerable.

If he should get the nomination all that will change.

A little black book? Hillary has a big black warehouse of stuff she can bring out about Trump.

You have to be naive to think the media has gone after Trump; they love Trump ... he’s good copy.


125 posted on 04/23/2016 8:22:25 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura
>What I don’t get is people totally refusing to look at the real character and history of the man after we learned more about him.

I have and I've found a man who loves his country, unlike every globalist candidate running who only sees the American public as sheep to be fleeced. I see man with great successes and great failures that's he's overcome, someone who's exposed the corruption at the heart of the American system, someone who exposed Ted Cruz as the Lying Globalist Phony that he his. In Trump I see the first nationalist leader we've had since Reagan in age where the left is trying to kill the west through the mass importation of 3ed worlders.

126 posted on 04/23/2016 8:24:23 AM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: sphinx

I think Trump is getting a wee bit over-confident because we now see him gradually taking more liberal positions.

He’s throwing them out there to test reaction and then pulling back if the reaction is too negative.

An example is his remarks on the NC bathroom bill. At first, he was critical and dismissive of the bill, but the next day, he moved smoothly back into declaring it a mistake but a states rights issue.

I don’t know how far left Trump will have to move before the realization sets in on the trumpers.


127 posted on 04/23/2016 8:26:17 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

What gives you the slightest hope that Trump would even try to kick over the big government.

He’s shown through his business practices that he will do what it takes to get along.

He will be exactly the same as president. I hate to dash your hopes but ...


128 posted on 04/23/2016 8:29:06 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: detective

Going back to drag Reagan into every Trump controversy is a reach.

And it is not at all comparable to the Trump situation.

Reagan was a likable, honorable guy with nothing negative in his life or history.

Trump is no Reagan.


129 posted on 04/23/2016 8:31:15 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: detective

If I may offer a bit of advice... nobody clicks on links.

And nobody clicks on multiple links.

You would do better to make your own comments.


130 posted on 04/23/2016 8:32:18 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

>What gives you the slightest hope that Trump would even try to kick over the big government.

The fact that he’s cheap and works his people hard. Almost 1/3 of the federal payrolls are people who do nothing and can’t be fired due to the unions. Trump would love to tell them “You’re fired” and thus reduce the size of the government massively in a single stroke.


131 posted on 04/23/2016 8:35:20 AM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: Sideshow Bob

Interesting points about Trump trashing Walker.

Trump’s first campaign strategy is vague but grandiose promises to solve all problems and make American great again.

Trump’s second campaign strategy is trashing and he is seldom called on it. His supporters don’t even care.

He trashed a good man, Walker.
He trashed Ben Carson, horribly. Horribly. But nobody here cared and then he later bought poor old Ben Carson.

Of course, he has trashed Cruz but his supporters love and mimic that.


132 posted on 04/23/2016 8:37:15 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Texan

Donald Trump is notoriously stingy.

He has spent very little so far. No one disputes that he received billions in free ads from the media as every word out of his mouth was broadcast.

He didn’t have to make campaign ads or pay for time on the media.

His main expenses have been hiring halls and hosting big sideshow rallies.

Very little cost to him, but lots to us as we have to provide security for these events.

He has asked for donations ... as he put it, not because he needs them but to show the commitment of his supporters.


133 posted on 04/23/2016 8:41:01 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: NIKK

Speaking of those donations to the military, people are starting to wonder where all that money given at his “escape the mean woman” rally has gone.

Well, it went to a Trump Foundation, presumably to be distributed to worthy causes for our military.

So far, less than a third of this money has reached any military beneficiaries. Where is it?


134 posted on 04/23/2016 8:45:20 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Texan

You need to learn the rules here.

You may make a long thoughtful post containing facts and information, but any reply you get from a trumper will ignore all your points but simply call you names.

I had to laugh at your request:

“You are a rude person so don’t talk to me again.”

They are all rude and they WILL talk to you again.


135 posted on 04/23/2016 8:48:35 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: RedWulf

If you seriously want that done, you should vote for Ted Cruz.

He has plans to dismantle many useless government agencies.

Trump will not be personally paying those federal employees and I wouldn’t count on his being as frugal with taxpayers money as he is with his own.


136 posted on 04/23/2016 8:50:36 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura
>He has plans to dismantle many useless government agencies.

Abolish the IRS? That's straight up conservative pandering that no one believes. Abolishing departments requires the consent of congress who is not going to give it. We have a far better chance of Trump just firing people who do nothing and not replacing them because clearly their jobs are not needed.

>Trump will not be personally paying those federal employees and I wouldn’t count on his being as frugal with taxpayers money as he is with his own.

Fair point, but people who have been frugal with their own money most of their life have a hard time breaking 40 years of that habit. Cruz on the other hand has never had anything but the Public till to pull on and he's spent his campaign money like a drunken sailor in loss after loss. It's very unlikely he'd be tight with public money.

137 posted on 04/23/2016 8:57:53 AM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: RedWulf

Okay, fine.

You see what you want to see, but you might want to look at the man behind the curtain.

If you think the globalists view ordinary citizens as sheep, your candidate views them as pigs if their little farms spoil the view from his casino.

But, okay, he will disappoint you but I cannot possibly convince you of that.


138 posted on 04/23/2016 9:00:51 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura
I don’t know how far left Trump will have to move before the realization sets in on the trumpers.

Trump could sacrifice children on the altar of Baal built into the lobby of Trump Towers, and the Trumpsters would claim it's just tactical and the real Donald will emerge once he's done with Cruz, and Kasich, and Hillary ... and it will never end.

He may have been joking, but he was right about shooting someone of Fifth Avenue and his supporters wouldn't care.

139 posted on 04/23/2016 9:01:02 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: kabar

It’s becoming more and more unreachable if whites nationwide don’t become more like Alabama and Mississippi whites....the most conservative in the country

Given Yankee voting history and millenial hipsters everywhere I am very pessimistic that happening

Only if we build a wall and deport a big chunk do we have a chance


140 posted on 04/23/2016 9:02:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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