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Delegate selection leads to schism in Missouri GOP
Missouri Times ^ | 4/18/16 | Travis Zimpfer

Posted on 04/19/2016 8:31:08 AM PDT by markomalley

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Nothing like Byzantine rules...

(I would post another inflammatory comment by a Trump surrogate, but you already have the idea)

1 posted on 04/19/2016 8:31:08 AM PDT by markomalley
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It’s becoming more and more obvious that the people of the US don’t have a say in who will be running for the presidency...Totally shameful...


2 posted on 04/19/2016 8:36:41 AM PDT by JBW1949
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Torches, pitchforks and other more modern forms of persuasion. If the GOPe succeeds in this delegate travesty, there will be hell to pay. Take that to the bank.


3 posted on 04/19/2016 8:42:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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” backlash against standard procedure”

Seems it could be the “standard procedure” that has been in place has perhaps been working more FOR the establishment than for the voter.

If so, then a ‘backlash’ is long overdue!


4 posted on 04/19/2016 8:43:47 AM PDT by austinaero
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It’s becoming more and more obvious that the people of the US don’t have a say in who will be running for the presidency...Totally shameful...

The problem is that any political party is a private organization (private as in not governmental).

Each of these organizations, whether the GOP, the Democrats, the Libertarians, the Greens, the Constitution Party, or whichever, sets its own rules.

You don't like how the state parties set their rules for selecting candidates...my personal beef is state parties allowing for open primaries (after all, it was open primaries that gave us John McLame back in 2008).

If a prospective candidate doesn't like the rules of the party, he can either go find another party where he likes the rules or work within the party machinery to change the rules so that they are more to his liking...

Or the candidate could run as an independent and say to heck with the parties.

I suggest that for Trump, in all seriousness, as his popularity seems to transcend party politics. He could actually be a viable non-party candidate and could knock a hole in the two-party system we have here.

5 posted on 04/19/2016 8:43:55 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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You don’t need inflammatory comments from Trump supporters. You have all that’s needed with Ted Cruz’ constant celebration over ‘delegates’ rather than ‘voters.’


6 posted on 04/19/2016 8:43:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Stand on the rules. That’s okay. They aren’t going to work in a General Election.


7 posted on 04/19/2016 8:44:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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“This is going to throw a wedge into the Republican party if Trump wins the majority of delegates that are bound but not the nomination. I think that’s really going to damage the party,” he said.

It’s possible it already has

Freaking nuts to worry about the “Party/Politburo” and not even mention worrying about the COUNTRY!!!!!


8 posted on 04/19/2016 8:44:48 AM PDT by austinaero
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>> Nothing like Byzantine rules...

The article said Trump was a ‘mogul’.

Shouldn’t a real mogul inherently be skilled at navigating Byzantine rules?


9 posted on 04/19/2016 8:44:57 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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GOP Election strategy


10 posted on 04/19/2016 8:45:04 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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I prefer the closed primaries where the people have their say....


11 posted on 04/19/2016 8:48:12 AM PDT by JBW1949
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Buncha BS— how about a candidate wins all or a portion of the delegates from the people voting, period. The delegates are bound to the candidate up until the convention. If there is a brokered convention then they can hash it out at that time. None of the sneaky conniving wheeling-dealing in-between the primary/caucus votes and the convention.


12 posted on 04/19/2016 8:49:40 AM PDT by tflabo (truth or tyrrany)
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Republicans should vote in the republican primary...
Democrats vote in the democratic primary...
Registered Independents ask for either ballot or vote for an independent candidate...

My opinion....


13 posted on 04/19/2016 8:51:13 AM PDT by JBW1949
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Totally agree.......


14 posted on 04/19/2016 8:51:49 AM PDT by JBW1949
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It’s becoming more and more obvious that the people of the US don’t have a say in who will be running for the presidency...Totally shameful...

Sure we do. You or I could run if we chose to, which illustrates what I think the problem is - there are only two parties.

15 posted on 04/19/2016 8:52:35 AM PDT by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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It seems to me that all too often people offer a backlash against standard procedure only when it does not benefit their perceived interests. For all intents and purposes, the race was essentially tied, but because Trump’s cumulative majority in five districts was slightly larger than Cruz’s cumulative majority in the other three, he gets the lion’s share of the votes on the first ballot—not many of the Trump supporters complain about that. Because Cruz and his guys on the ground are more actively involved, they likely will have the lion’s share on any subsequent ballots.

This isn’t the same as splitting things 26-26 (or 25-24), but there does seem some justice involved for both sides.


16 posted on 04/19/2016 8:53:17 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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“Somebody might be trying to make a prediction by who they saw elected at the county caucuses, but those delegates, the national delegates, have not been selected yet,” he said.

So, the state GOP chairman says not to worry, because the county caucus slate of delegates (having been loaded with delegates supportive of a specific nominee who did not win the county voters' endorsement) have not yet become congressional district or state delegates. No discussion is presented regarding whether all county delegations have been similarly loaded, but this guy's advice is to wait until delegates are chosen at the state level before identifying issues at the county level.

Any bets on whether he would say it's "too late" to complain, once the state delegation is set?

And they wonder why regular people do not want to live and work in the political arena.

17 posted on 04/19/2016 8:53:56 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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It's a riot if you ask me.

Does Cruz or the GOP expect any Republican to vote in any way for them who have knowledge of these things?
We know this is the GOP in conjunction with Cruz here.

I'm going to write them both off I think.
I only see two scenarios where I get behind the GOP this year.

#1 Trump wins nomination.
#2. Trump and Cruz team up.

Beyond that I see last election as the last time I vote for Republicans, especially for lawyers and a proved weasel like Ted Cruz.

18 posted on 04/19/2016 8:54:41 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Then go ahead and run.....


19 posted on 04/19/2016 8:56:31 AM PDT by JBW1949
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I'd go further than you would. NY has a system where folks have to join the political party a few months before the primary. That would make a lot of sense. Then the party could and should be open and clear about where and when party meetings will take place.

The setup I described would put an end to outrages like the theft of that primary runoff for Cochran. Looking back, is that actually the day the Republican Party died? We didn't know it yet.

20 posted on 04/19/2016 8:57:34 AM PDT by grania
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