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Like I say, it's not just corrupt people at the top. Corrupt rank-and-file Republicans who know how to game the system are what must be overcome in order to get a system in which the voting public's intent is taken into account. I do not expect internal reforms. It will require legislation or a ballot initiative—both of which are now in progress due to public outrage.
1 posted on 04/11/2016 8:11:07 PM PDT by snarkpup
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I’ve already told my elected representatives that if the GOPe continues on their path toward a contested convention I will not vote for any candidate with an R next to their name.


2 posted on 04/11/2016 8:13:26 PM PDT by ladyjane
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Next Tuesday can’t come soon enough to slap that Cruz smirk off his ugly mug. Let’s see how he does does when Patriotic American voters vote. I think it is appropriate that New York will be the state to make Cruz unable to make 1237.


3 posted on 04/11/2016 8:15:49 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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As I posted in my duplicate thread:

I’m sure the average voter was paying attention a year ago when the GOPe decided to change the rules.

Arrogant elitism in action in USA elections.

There is only one party, The Establishment.


4 posted on 04/11/2016 8:16:45 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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Well. I thought there were no Trump supporters in Colorado. I’ve been asking all day for the numbers of Kasich and Trump votes and no one knew. All the Cruz people act as if there was not one single vote for either Kasich or Trump.

There actually were Trump supporters in Colorado??


5 posted on 04/11/2016 8:17:22 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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It’s a better system than letting Democrats “cross over” in open primaries. I think New York at least has the right idea in making people register for the party in the primary 8 or so months before the vote is held.


6 posted on 04/11/2016 8:17:57 PM PDT by JediJones (Cheatin' Trump got 37% of the vote in the primary but has 45% of the delegates! Bad system! Unfair!)
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http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Josef.Stalin.Quote.0DE9

Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."


11 posted on 04/11/2016 8:23:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I 'm just another low info/stupid & evil/vile/crazy Trump supporter wanting to select my candidate!!)
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‘Loss’? Try ‘theft.’


12 posted on 04/11/2016 8:23:39 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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16 posted on 04/11/2016 8:25:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I 'm just another low info/stupid & evil/vile/crazy Trump supporter wanting to select my candidate!!)
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If the “party bosses” are betting that average voters won’t show up at the caucuses, then isn’t the best way to beat them by...showing up?


19 posted on 04/11/2016 8:26:21 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Its all fake. Why even have primaries and caucuses where millions wait in line after taking the time to drive to a poll location. This whole thing is a joke. The republican party looks like a joke.


20 posted on 04/11/2016 8:27:18 PM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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Well Steve, the voters are kinda funny when it comes to actual elections. Arrogant little pr!cks that they are, they think it's THEIR decision.

But if you think you can have a party without voters, go for it. I can tell you that JEB! didn't do so well with that.

27 posted on 04/11/2016 8:31:30 PM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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the colorado caucus process is a sick, insider, anti-democratic joke. About half a dozen people show up for each precinct caucus, and “elect” people to attend county assemblies and Congressional district assemblies; the county assemblies “elect” people to the state convention. The CD and State assemblies then “elect” delegates, who are supposedly unbound.

A couple thousand people out of a population of 5 million participate.

if all registered republicans actually showed up, there wouldn’t be enough meeting rooms to hold them in the entire state and the caucuses wouldn’t ‘work’. in fact, the GOPe is counting on just a very, very,very few showing up. that’s why the reserved caucus rooms are always so very, very, very tiny.

family members who have children to take care of, meals to prepare, and work to prepare for don’t have time to waste on a meaningless process where party insiders are going to steal the whole thing at the end anyway.

on the other hand, colorado is a mail-in ballot state for ALL elections, so a few hundred thousand would have voted in an actual primary, whereas the caucuses were held on a weeknight when people have to take care of their families and then go to work the next day.

btw, if this is such a wonderful process, shouldn’t all of our elections for everything require everyone to show up at 7pm to 8pm on a Tuesday night in order to vote?


33 posted on 04/11/2016 8:40:23 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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My dad was a life long Dem. I used to argue politics with him and he would tell me, “The Republicans only care about the rich, the Democrats are for the little guy”. I used to tell him the Democrats were phony and didn’t care about anything getting power through government.

Sadly, we were both right.


34 posted on 04/11/2016 8:41:30 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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I wonder if anyone has contacted Tom Tancredo on this? I would be interested in why he ran under the Constitution Party for governor against Cickenpooper and took second place OVER the republican.

I would bet he locked horns with the crooks in the GOP in that state.


37 posted on 04/11/2016 8:42:57 PM PDT by crz
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“It was done exactly according to the rules,” Mr. House said, denying claims of underhanded or manipulative tactics.

What a sleazeball. It's the Colorado rules that are unhanded and manipulative, and intentionally designed to disenfranchise the voters and allow party insiders and activists to pick delegates loyal to a candidate of the insider's choice.

41 posted on 04/11/2016 8:47:02 PM PDT by Will88
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I would suggest a simple fix. Spend a Saturday night drafting up a new party, new icon, new theme, and new symbol...open up on Monday with the “Real-Republican Party” (RRP). Denounce the GOP as RINO and use mostly Twitter, Facebook and the internet to get the message out. Require a Alexander Hamilton bill ($10) to officially join and to serve as a yearly fee. Pick out five or six towns in Colorado to hold a yearly conference, and openly campaign against any candidate that the state GOP supports. Put up local enthusiasts against GOP nominees....up and down the state.


47 posted on 04/11/2016 8:51:21 PM PDT by pepsionice
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[Colorado Republican Party Chairman Steve] House acknowledged that there are a lot of deeply entrenched players within the party who think the system works well and believe that those who are the most politically engaged should determine who becomes the party’s presidential nominee.

Why not take the next step and allow the Central Committee to determine who becomes the next president?

48 posted on 04/11/2016 8:52:37 PM PDT by map
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It’s amazing, AMAZING how many people on FR are in favor of a totalitarian overriding of the will of the voters, even just ignoring the votes cast, just because their guy gets in.

I thought we were a republic.


66 posted on 04/11/2016 9:29:48 PM PDT by Luircin (Supervillians for Trump: We're sick of being the lesser evil!)
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The committee's own resolution of fairness in their closed process--I defy anyone to show me any reason why Trump was not give a complete and fair chance, and that it was Cruz's super human brilliance that allowed him a clean sweep after reading how very very very fair the policy on fairness was:

Therefore, be it resolved that:

The Colorado Republican Party forbids any of its delegates to the Republican National Convention to vote for Donald Trump for president or vice president on the first ballot or any other ballot, and

The Colorado Republican Party asks its delegates to national convention to pledge on their honor to do everything in their power to help secure the presidential nomination for someone other than Donald Trump.

87 posted on 04/12/2016 12:23:54 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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