The IP Box setup, via MDSec.
Posted on 04/08/2016 12:47:53 AM PDT by Swordmaker
The unlocking procedure used by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to break into an iPhone 5c at the center of the San Bernardino case cannot be used on new devices, the bureau's director said on Wednesday.
Comey told a group of students and educators at Kenyon College in Ohio that his department had "purchased a tool" from a third party to unlock the iPhone in question, according to CNN Money. Though he stopped short of revealing the exact process, he did note that it would not work on more modern handsets.
"This doesn't work on 6S, doesn't work on a 5S, and so we have a tool that works on a narrow slice of phones," Comey said.
Discussing Apple's request that the bureau unveil its method, Comey was noncommittal but said he was worried about losing what little access the bureau does have.
"We tell Apple, then they're going to fix it, then we're back where we started from," he said. "We may end up there, we just haven't decided yet."
Since the FBI revealed its success late last month, most speculation regarding their method has centered around the so-called "IP Box" that first appeared last spring. That tool — which retails for less than $300 — latches onto a susceptible iPhone's power circuitry and enters PINs over USB.
When a wrong guess is detected, the tool aggressively cuts power to the iPhone's logic board before the guess is recorded, defeating the 10-try limit.
Apple is believed to have patched this hole in older iPhones with iOS 8.1.1; as the iPhone 5c in question is thought to be running iOS 9, the FBI has either chosen a different method or has purchased the device from a company that has discovered an as-yet unreported flaw in later software.
Beginning with the iPhone 5S, PIN guesses are managed in the hardware Secure Enclave, rendering such an attack useless.
None of those are examples of a law enforcement agent, (who remember, must be considered trustworthy by the legal system) lying to a judge.
Perjury is a career ender for a law enforcement official.
The whole thing being public with Apple didn’t make sense, if they had any idea it was this easy to do it by paying someone else and not forcing Apple to do it. They had no idea how long Apple was going to fight them in the courts? I find it hard to believe, anyhow. Stinks of either gross incompetence or kabuki theatre. Why not just drop the case against Apple and let everyone draw their own conclusions?
Freegards
Apple was the one that forced it public. No, the FBI didn't know anyone else could do it when they filed with the court.
They had no idea how long Apple was going to fight them in the courts?
Considering how many (more than 100) times Apple had helped them in the past, they didn't think Apple would have a screech fest over it. They thought Apple would simply obey the court without being an @$$ about it.
I find it hard to believe, anyhow. Stinks of either gross incompetence or kabuki theatre.
Yes, Drama Queen Tim Cook was grossly incompetent in this fight he picked with the FBI, and Tim Cook also created a very extensive Kabuki Theater Drama for the hordes of Apple fans to swallow... which most of them appear to have done.
Why not just drop the case against Apple and let everyone draw their own conclusions?
Because the Law Enforcement agents felt that other innocent lives might be at risk if that locked phone contained terrorism related information.
Apple should not have been playing games with other people's lives. As it turned out, they didn't even prevent what they claimed they were trying to prevent; Government access to every Iphone 5c out there.
“Because the Law Enforcement agents felt that other innocent lives might be at risk if that locked phone contained terrorism related information.”
So why let anyone know some other guys did it for them? Why give an explanation at all?
Freegards
Yeah, I thought they had that iPhone opened immediately and were using the whole Apple fiasco to buy time to run down the information they found.
>Perjury is a career ender for a law enforcement official.
In theory, perhaps.
In practice? Well... can you show me an example of where this has actually happened in recent years? I’m a voracious news reader and have been for a very long time and I can’t think of a single time where “testilying” or any other form of perjury by law enforcement has been punished in any way.
Between the thin blue line and prosecutors being tied to law enforcement at the hip, I would be shocked to see that there is any deterrent value in that alleged risk.
Because Apple inc made it into a very public legal fight. With hundreds of millions of people wondering "what happened to that Apple FBI fight?" the chances of keeping the eventual resolution of it a secret were slim and none.
Once you have blown up the airwaves with "The GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BREAK INTO EVERYONE'S PHONES!!!!" it gets pretty hard to tell everyone to "go back to sleep."
Oh, DL, that's just more of your patented bill shut. It's been revealed that the FBI has been contracting with Cellebrite since 2003 to unlock all manner of mobile devices. In fact, Cellebrite has been the "go-to" source for such unlocking for over 50 government agencies they have contracts with, including the FBI. Of course, that's one of those inconvenient things called a fact.
You've never met one of those that you couldn't ignore.
Using your Ouija board again, DiogenesLamp, and ignoring more of those INCONVENIENT FACTS as you also pull more "facturds" out of your stinky sphincter?
Notice how you lie? You make a point that is absolutely true, but completely misleading in how it actually applied to the real life situation.
Yes, Cellebrite has been unlocking Iphones for the FBI for a long time, but up to that point, not Iphone 5cs running the newer operating system.
I'm on to your game. You keep saying things that are in fact true, but completely misleading in how they apply to the issue being discussed.
You do it constantly with the FBI filing. You keep quoting only the part you want people to focus on, and absolutely ignoring the other part that gave Apple a blank check to do it any way they wanted to.
An accomplished liar knows that the best way to push a lie is to put just enough truth in it to make it sound believable. You just rely on people not bothering to find out the details. You get by with your assertions because most of the time you are dealing with people who don't actually bother to find out what is the truth.
This is the same thing Apple inc did with their screaming fit about the government wanting to unlock everybody's Iphones. It was a lie, but it had just enough truth in it that people were willing to believe it.
Your message is too long for me to bother reading. I doubt it contains anything worth reading anyways.
I am not convinced the FBI Director is revealing the Truth.
—If the FBI had unlocked the phone during the first week, I doubt they would say so.
—In my opinion the conflict with Apple may be a contrivance.
Deception is a major tool in warfare. Plant false information.
That is why you remain so abysmally ignorant. Your arrogant assurance that you already know everything worth knowing gets in the way. The rest of us know that we might learn something new.
I've posted the entire Court Order. Apple could do it any way, but however they did it the method would be handed over to the FBI at the end. You never have shown us your section that allows what you claim, that Apple may retain the iPhone afterwards. LIAR.
Exactly. And you routinely ignore the part of the FBI filing where Apple is permitted to accomplish the task in any manner they see fit.
By hyping that bundle of text, you deliberately draw attention away from the salient fact that Apple had complete control.
This is what good liars do. You are deliberately misdirecting everyone's attention from the facts that do not confirm to your Propaganda.
Good news if true.
L
Regarding what you write, I'll have to appeal to Mark Twain.
"“If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed. "
That's you. A font of misinformation. Reading what you write is worse than being ignorant. It's a guaranteed manner of insuring that a person "knows so much which isn't so." (To Paraphrase Reagan.)
“Yeah, except for the fact that it is illegal for FBI agents to lie to the judge”
Unless they’re in Boston.
L
Unless they’re in Boston.
L
I am not getting your reference.
Look it up.
L
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