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1 posted on 04/07/2016 9:24:00 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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Lol


2 posted on 04/07/2016 9:25:00 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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FBI director: We bought 'a tool' to hack terrorist's iPhone (Flash (Ugh) Video)

And Apple threw a temper-tantrum screaming fit and ended up with exactly what they claim to have been concerned about anyway.

Had they helped, they could have controlled the process, but now they have no control at all.

Apple has egg on it's face.

3 posted on 04/07/2016 9:28:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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FOR SALE

Back Door w/Dog door cut out $60

4 posted on 04/07/2016 9:29:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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It looks as though Apple had already been “backdoored”. Probably more than once.


5 posted on 04/07/2016 9:29:42 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a dump, sewer or "refugee" camp. It's my home.)
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The the FBI download it from the Dark App Store?


6 posted on 04/07/2016 9:29:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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They asked the Chinese Government for help.


7 posted on 04/07/2016 9:30:00 AM PDT by PGR88
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I don’t believe they hacked it. It’s too perfect. This way, the FBI looks all-powerful.


8 posted on 04/07/2016 9:31:05 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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One of the great things about living in a free society is knowing that if a seller won’t do what you want then the buyer is free to shop around. There are always more sellers out there. Now, assuming the FBI is telling the truth, Apple and everyone else will know that Apple people aren’t the smartest people in the room.


9 posted on 04/07/2016 9:32:09 AM PDT by Purdue77 ("Hillary for Prison, 2016.")
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Vindicated! As I told everyone on FR, the FBI hack has been revealed by FBI Director Comey to ONLY WORK on Apple iPhones that do not have the A7 and above processors that have the Secure Enclave. That means iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, 6Plus, iPhone 6S, 6S Plus, and the new iPhone SE are all still secure against the new tool that the FBI bought to open the San Bernardino Terrorist's iPhone 5C. That tool will only work on Apple iPhones such as the iPhone 5C and iPhone 5, which have the A6 processor and its built-in Encryption Engine. — PING!

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10 posted on 04/07/2016 9:33:23 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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Is this even legal? Are we supposed to think that the FBI will only use it for good, now that they have it?


12 posted on 04/07/2016 9:36:51 AM PDT by Vic S
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The FBI director also said the purchased tool worked only on a "narrow slice of phones" that does not include the newest Apple models, or the 5S.

They'll have to buy all the separate options of the tool (slight modifications needed for each) to handle each version of ios and phone... for another $10 million per version.

13 posted on 04/07/2016 9:37:51 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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They bought the tool from Cellebrite.

It’s hardly a secret.

Cellebrite was prominent in cracking Trayvon Martin’s phone.

They are the go to company for law enforcement when it comes to getting data off of mobile devices.

Why the FBI was unaware of them, is anyone’s guess.

Cellebrite can likely crack the latest phones, if you pay for them to do so.


14 posted on 04/07/2016 9:41:30 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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I thought I had read that this only works on 5C iPhones or earlier because of the older OS. If the phone had been a 5S or newer with the more stringent OS it would not have been possible to crack the phone.


15 posted on 04/07/2016 9:41:43 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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Ah....free enterprise at its best. Problem solved and no lawyers required.


18 posted on 04/07/2016 9:46:26 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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Alright, they have been shooting off their mouths about getting in the phone’s backdoor. Now, WHAT DID THEY FIND!


20 posted on 04/07/2016 9:48:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Personal I think they had it hacked all along. The FBI just wanted to make it appear they could not get in while they ran down all the leads in the intel.


21 posted on 04/07/2016 9:51:09 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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Did it look anything like this?:

Or did the FBI buy it from these guys?


24 posted on 04/07/2016 9:59:53 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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I love the 'unbiased' wording in this article...

Apple (AAPL, Tech30) declined to assist, saying that to do so would compromise the security of all iPhone users.

I'm pretty sure that both the FBI and Apple have directly said that a team of engineers was working with the FBI to come up with a solution. I'm also pretty sure that both have said that it was Apple who came up with discovery of the hole in the security that would permit loading a signed version of the OS, even on a locked phone, which would not wipe the phone.

What they declined to do was create a new version of the OS and digitally sign it.

So you might say this was a self inflicted wound; here's a way to do it, maybe, and due to the digital signature, we're the only ones in the world who can do it, but good luck getting approval.

I'm pretty sure it took, what, two or three hours before the suggestion was made here on FreeRepublic of the likely method used by the FBI and an outside company to copy off the data and eventually hack it.

Heck, McAfee was rather open in his offer to do it.

So, really, if I was a reporter inclined to characterize months of a dozen or more employees working directly with the FBI as 'declined to assist', why hasn't the obvious question been asked - Did Apple suggest using the method that you eventually paid another party to have done?

If they're going to continue with the narrative of a company which refused to help, I guess asking that question wouldn't further the narrative. It is a near certainty that they explicitly outlined the entire procedure from start to finish for how it could be done with the caveat that there is a chance, if something goes wrong, of corrupting the data. Whereas the software method wouldn't have that chance.

Why do I say that? Because the FBI hasn't arrested those engineers and filed charges against Apple for conspiracy to impede a federal investigation.

27 posted on 04/07/2016 10:05:58 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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the government has purchased, from a private party, a way to get into that phone

Capitalism still works.

28 posted on 04/07/2016 10:08:19 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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And I’m sure terrorists who use their phone are going to continue using iphones, rather than the burners you can get for $5 on the streets of Berlin, for their activities.


29 posted on 04/07/2016 10:09:26 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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