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It's time for pro-lifers to start being consistent.
1 posted on 04/04/2016 8:13:22 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Is Abortion Murder, or Not?

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I thought it was. But what do I know? All the “conservative” candidates and even right to life groups say it is not.

If it was murder, wouldn’t you think the women allowing the murder should be punished?


2 posted on 04/04/2016 8:18:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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How about starting by being consistent at looking at history. When something was treated as a madness rather than a crime, there may have been a reason for it.

A society that can think of no better reason to do something than “law” is already lost.


3 posted on 04/04/2016 8:18:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Murder is malice aforethought, meaning it’s a planned killing.


4 posted on 04/04/2016 8:18:56 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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“Murder” is a legal definition. Abortion is undeniably a homicide. At present it is a legally sanctioned homicide.


8 posted on 04/04/2016 8:24:52 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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If abortion is the murder of an innocent human being, as we pro-life advocates have always said, then by what mental gymnastics do we allow the murderer to escape justice?

Another Freeper posted that prosecuting the woman who procures an illegal abortion runs afoul of the fifth amendment due to the need for the woman to testify against the doctor. If she is in legal jeopardy over the abortion, then she cannot be a witness for the prosecution of the doctor. I wish I could remember who posted this in order to give proper credit.

9 posted on 04/04/2016 8:32:22 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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10 posted on 04/04/2016 8:32:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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The problem is that if you look at the old court cases you’ll find that the courts held that killing a fetus was not murder. The courts said that the woman had to give birth before it was considered murder. There were states that outlawed abortion but that was a separate crime—not murder. The main reason was that in those days child birth was such an iffy thing. There was a good chance that the baby would not be born alive, so they chose the point of birth as the dividing line. Even before Roe v. Wade there were some states that allowed abortion, like NY. Obviously that would not have been permitted if a fetus were considered a person.


13 posted on 04/04/2016 8:40:22 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Gal_6:7 - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.


14 posted on 04/04/2016 8:44:47 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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Justice says that actions have consequences. It is cause and effect. Forgiveness must me earned to be deserved. Mercy substitutes for justice a dose of the undeserved and does so in the name of pity. The pity is not for the innocent among people or the good, but for the perpetrators of evil. The person who possesses basic human dignity and self esteem asks for justice not the pity of mercy.


15 posted on 04/04/2016 8:56:33 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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is smashing spotted owl eggs ‘murder’? Illegal? Publicly announce you are going to go to old growth forests, and find all the spotted owl eggs you can find, and smash them, and see how quickly you are arrested- If killing something that isn’t born yet isn’t a crime when it comes to people- why is it a crime when done to bird eggs? Spotted owls may be endangered, but if spotted owl eggs aren’t spotted owls yet, the smashing them shouldn’t constitute a crime, correct?


16 posted on 04/04/2016 8:57:08 AM PDT by Bob434
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Morally, abortion is murder. It is the intentional killing of an innocent person.

Legally, abortion is, for now, the same as removing a wart or trimming your fingernails, except that Obamacare does not mandate employers paying for manicures. I don’t know anyone who feels guilty about trimming their nails, but most people who get abortions feel guilt. That’s a pretty clear sign that morality is right and the law is wrong on abortion.


19 posted on 04/04/2016 9:17:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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21 posted on 04/04/2016 9:54:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

According to current law, no.


22 posted on 04/04/2016 10:22:38 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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It is not murder because it is legal , however it is homicide.


23 posted on 04/04/2016 10:28:57 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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Abortion is definitely murder. What does your mind tell you?

In abortion, you are killing a young human being. What else would you call it?


27 posted on 04/04/2016 4:29:41 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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