Posted on 04/01/2016 5:18:50 PM PDT by Enlightened1
If the establishment wants Ryan, they could nominate Ryan, let Trumpers and Cruz fans spend the next three months screaming that they’ll never vote Republican again, and then pray that the sheer amount of day-to-day irritation they endure from watching Hillary Clinton campaign finally leads those people to say in October, “F*** it, Ryan it is!” That’s a Hail Mary pass, but nominating Cruz after he’s been weakened by Trump attacks and embittered Trump fans by “stealing” the nomination through delegate chicanery is a Hail Mary pass from your own 20. And nominating Trump, given his radioactive unpopularity with the wider electorate, is a Hail Mary pass from your own end zone.
Exit question: Rove claims here that everyone’s misunderstood Rule 40. Is he right? All Rule 40 does, he says, is prevent candidates who’ve failed to win a majority of delegates in eight states from being formally nominated with a big speech and a seconding speech. It doesn’t prevent delegates from voting for whoever they want, which means Ryan, Romney, Walker, Perry, et al. are very much in the mix as nominees. That’s the first time I’ve heard that interpretation. And even if Rove’s right about what the rule says now, I’ve got a funny feeling that that’s not what it’ll say once Trump’s and Cruz’s fans on the Rules Committee are done rewriting it.
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Shut your fat mouth Porky Pig....(a@#wipe)
He needs to stop yammering. An apple in his mouth would show his true self..
Too late. Had they done it two months ago, it would have worked beautifully. Instead, they chose to destroy each other and now neither of them has a chance in the general election because they are both damaged beyond repair.
I promise if they do this I will not vote for any GOPe supported candidate.
Then say IF you will vote for Trump, when he is the nominee.
Cruz would be a far better president than Trump, but Trump would be infinitely better than Clinton or Sanders.
Okay, your turn.
He has NO real experience with doing ANYTHING at all, except being a lawyer. He doesn't know ANY foreign laws, any foreign leaders, anything whatsoever about finances, military history, and has lousy judgement where people are concerned. So please tell me WHY you imagine that he would be a "better" president than Trump?
Will I vote for Cruz IF he manages to somehow steal the nomination, which he can't and shan't? I honestly don't know.
Please answer my questions; I actually AM interested in your reply.
“Lets face it, the GOP nominee might need to be someone other than Trump or Cruz”
Maybe the GOPe nominee should be Hillary Clinton. There would be a lot of upside to this for the GOPe:
* No one would directly threaten their elitism and insiders club.
* We would get amnesty for all illegal and criminal aliens, which is the number issue to the GOPe for cheap labor for their benefactors.
* The Karl Rove club of GOPe can then give Hillary everything she wants, and the GOPe can say “see, the American people want us to get things done” by not doing anything but just letting the Clinton kleptocracy run amok and also give more of our technology and national secrets and weapons technology to China in return for nice “goodies”.
Opps... actually Hillary doesn’t have a “fresh face”.
But what about Chelsea?
How do you figure he knows no foreign laws, foreign leaders, finances, or military history?
I'll grant you that Trump is an incredible businessman and has probably forgotten more about business and finances than Cruz knows, but a one-dimensional candidate doesn't cut it.
You can continue to take your snide little jabs at Cruz all you want, but:
Cruz knows the Constitution inside and out and knows government inside and out and is a strict constructionist. I really doubt Trump could quote the preamble or enumerate the first ten amendments.
Cruz is a conservative at heart. For years, we've been lamenting the fact that we never get a conservative candidate to vote for. I missed voting for Reagan. This is the first time in my life I actually have the opportunity to vote for a conservative, and the country is too pissed off and blinded by propaganda to take advantage of the opportunity. Trump, on the other hand isn't conservative in his heart, and he doesn't understand conservatism in his head. His handlers wrote the positions he claims on his website, and repeatedly have to bail him out when he puts his foot in his mouth and says something wildly un-conservative.
Cruz is more even tempered and doesn't fly into a tizzy when attacked as easily as Trump (and many, many of his supporters) do. You all may find it endearing that Trump hits back twice as hard (or 3 or 4 or 5 times) when he perceives that he's being attacked, but we don't need a knee-jerk, loose-cannon, thin-skinned president dealing with world leaders.
Trump loves America, and promotes capitalism, so yeah, he'd be a much better president than Clinton or Sanders.
But, Cruz loves America too, and promotes capitalism too, plus he's conservative at heart and doesn't have to fake it to gain votes.
That's why.
Now, I've fully answered your questions, and all I've gotten from you is a bunch of snarky, hateful, comments about Cruz and an "I don't know".
The one thing Trump and Cruz supporters agree on is our hatred of DC/GOP/Reince/Establishment total BS that is screwing over all of us.
I fear the only way we can do this is to take our country back from the likes of Romney, Graham, Ryan, Obama, Bush, Rove, Schumer, McCain, Corker, Haley, Clinton, etc. is to join together.
I'm sure you think you are wildly clever.
If you really think (and are not just propagandizing) that there's no difference between a Conservative Ted Cruz and a "conservative" Karl Rove, you're a lost cause.
There's a reason Rove and the rest of the GOPe hate Ted Cruz, it's because he has shined and continues to shine the light on how far off track to the left the Republican party has gone.
Yep, the GOPe has started "endorsing" Cruz. In part, because between the two viable candidates, they hate Trump more (point for Trump), and in part because "endorsing" Cruz is a really easy way of encouraging the in-fighting between the Cruz and Trump supporters.
“There’s a reason Rove and the rest of the GOPe hate Ted Cruz, it’s because he has shined and continues to shine the light on how far off track to the left the Republican party has gone.”
No, they dislike Cruz for the same reason everybody else does who actually knows him. He is dislikeable. He is a creep. If there was an actual Santa Claus, Cruz wouldn’t get any toys. A prustitute would demand twice the going rate first. He also doesn’t wash his hands enough, everyone in the Senate says so. He’s like green eggs and ham.
“Yep, the GOPe has started ‘endorsing’ Cruz. In part, because between the two viable candidates, they hate Trump more”
No. They hate Trump WAY more. That’s why you need to Vote Trump.
Not going to be Ryan, but it could be Kasich.
Sadly Amen to that.
Unless Cruz opts to back Trump, it won't matter what the different supporters do - he has almost zero chance of wining a nomination but persists in playing spoiler to keep Trump from winning what is within his grasp - giving the real decision over to those who are entrenched and who would rather have Hillary win than Cruz or Trump.
If Paul had run on a platform of how he really feels:
All citizens who paid into the Social Security Trust Fund (that Congress has raided and spent every dime of) - would be disavowed of their last lame belief that they are owed something back. Social Security in Ryan’s world will be a welfare system for the same people who receive all the other goodies: primarily democrat base voters.
Trade deals will be negotiated by Congress - by elite congressmen who make speeches and sell their autobiographies to lobbyists for TOP DOLLAR. (oh, and eff the working class)
Borders will NEVER be secured as long as the CHEAP LABOR EXPRESS is willing to BUY the speeches of Congressmen.
And last but not least, Paul Ryan is pushing a bill that mandates speeches to lobbyist to be at least one minute long - - in case the public starts seeing speeches as bribes...
If Paul Ryan had run on his REAL platform he couldn’t be elected dog catcher. He and Karl Rove need to get real.. we’re onto the lies...
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