Posted on 04/01/2016 5:03:48 AM PDT by Bratch
Townhall reporter Guy Benson today admitted the Cruz campaign is stealing Trump delegates in states that Trump won.
The Ted Cruz campaign is running Cruz supporters as Trump delegates in states that Trump won. That way they can steal the nomination from Trump in Cleveland although they’ve only won a fraction of the states Trump has won.
Guy Benson: This has been percolating for several months. He has a very sharp legal team that know the rules inside and out in a way the Trump campaign clearly does not. It’s not just Louisiana. And it’s not just finagling to just get Rubio delegates or unbound delegates. What they’re also doing is getting people elected as Trump delegates who are not, in fact, Trump loyalists. So they would be bound to Donald Trump on the first ballot only. After which, although they are technically Trump delegates, they’ve been sort of put in place to jump.
And these are the same people who call Trump supporters ‘morons’ one day and beg them to support Ted Cruz the next.
CONFIRMED: Cruz Camp Stealing Trump Delegates at State Level
Trump has thumbed his nose at the Party and the process the whole time.
Delegate selection is part of the process.
More to the point, the Party chooses the nominee. What I mean by that is there’s more to the process than voting. Delegates don’t materialize out of thin air. In most instances, being a delegate is a reward for long hours of hard work at the local, county, and state level. It’s a position of honor within the party system to be a delegate to the national convention.
It’s the ultimate party insider gig.
Trump’s people aren’t putting in the volunteer hours -for the party- that lead to being a precinct delegate that lead to being a county delegate that lead to being a state delegate that lead to being a national delegate.
Since Trump’s not doing it, I for one am damn proud that Cruz is.
Y’all talk about “stealing” the convention. The convention is the delegates. The Party has a huge advantage in choosing delegates loyal to the party. It’s their process. Every delegate, however bound, actually committed to supporting Trump or Cruz instead of a convention insert is one less opportunity for that to happen.
This website is full of Trump supporters asserting that Cruz is being played a fool for believing he has a chance to win because the establishment will use him to broker a convention away from him.
Maybe.
But Cruz is planning to counter that strategy at the delegate level.
How’s Trump planning to keep that from happening to him?
I’m sick of them and all of this. I feel tired and yet still want to fight these corrupt , sleazy bastards.
We vote and they represent us the voter, and now if they want ot ignore us then we are not being represented.
How anyone can support this who states they are not part of this corruption is stunning.
I can’t write on here how I really feel about this corruption which is bringing down this great country.
It is no better than being led by a KIng, the only difference is that the two parties make the idiots think they do have a voice wen clearly after this we do not.
Sounds like Cruze is just doing what Hillary used to do
>>> ...clearly the Republican party couldn’t care less about the folks voting in their primaries. <<<
Just figuring that out?
Hmm, a Canadian whose Dad supported Fidel Castro, and who is married to a Globalist shill. I am sorry I voted for him when he ran for Senator in TX.
Cue the lawyer jokes
Humor based on inconvenient truth
Cruz..
Smirk smirk smirk
You’re the one suggesting how “smart” Cruz is for playing their game JJ...not me.
It’s mathematically impossible for John Kasich to win.
So why is has he not gracefully dropped out?
Kasich says he hopes to get a VP slot by staying in.
A presidential candidate does not have to stay in to become VP.
The real reason why John Kasich stays in is because if he drops out then all 66 Delegates in Ohio will go to the runner up which is Trump.
If Trump gets the 66 Delegates, then the race is over.
This is why George Soros is funding John Kasich.
So if you are trying to imply that Trump is getting a fair shake, then nothing could be further from the truth. The 1237 rule was only there in case of a tight race.
Furthermore, if the RNC is just that dumb to go to a brokered convention, and Cruz gets the NOD. Do you really believe that most of the Trump supporters are going to vote for Cruz after the Primary was stolen from them??? It will certainly divide the Republican party, and guarantee a Hillary win.
Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.
Then when Hillary gets elected all we will hear from the worthless Republicans is “should of, could of, would of..”
He will not get to 1237 delegates, thus Cruz will be the nominee.
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Do you honestly think the establishment is going to select
Cruz as the nominee in a brokered convention?
If that happens, then do you really think Cruz will get the majority of Trump supporters???? LOL!
You’re showing your loyalty to the establishment more and more every day now - to the Romney and Bush wing of the party.
Win by any means necessary, without honor. You used to stand up for him as a “principled conservative”, but since he has no principles that was hypocrisy (and this is a very good example of that).
Very disappointed in you, and it speaks poorly of your unit. I’m glad I didn’t serve in that division.
I just can’t see Cruz picking up the necessary number of delegates using this type of strategy.
McConnell, Ryan, and company will crush him once the 1st ballot is over.
We’ll see.
He will not get to 1237 delegates, thus Cruz will be the nominee.
There is no GOP without Trump voters. Either Trump is the nom or the GOP wing of the Uniparty dies. There are no longer any other choices after the despicable assault we have endured. Understand?
“More to the point, the Party chooses the nominee. What I “mean by that is theres more to the process than voting. Delegates dont materialize out of thin air. In most instances, being a delegate is a reward for long hours of hard work at the local, county, and state level. Its a position of honor within the party system to be a delegate to the national convention.”
I dont care what it is.
When the place you live voted for candidate X, then YOU vote for candidate X, PERIOD.
Cruz fans can dance and hide behind legalese all they want, but the basic voter that sees this is not going to sit there and give Cruz gold stars for it.
Cruz supporter.
I don’t hate anybody, but I’m ready for a Conservative party and that means wresting control of the party from the elites, the establishment.
Cruz is not and has never been part of the GOP establishment. All along, we’ve been pushing for the leadership role where the establishment is forced to take OUR lead.
And here it is.
I’m not going to be ashamed that the establishment has tucked it’s tail to follow a conservative to the nomination.
Bush, Millard, Graham and the gang having to swallow pride to support Cruz? I’m proud of that.
Almost every sport I’ve played has “the rules” and “the spirit of the rules”. Some people violate the spirit but stay within the rulebook. They are considered a**holes but everyone else and people don’t want anything to do with them (but you can’t avoid it in leagues).
I’d say that violating the will of the voters is within the RNC rules but is an a**hole move.
If Trump is so naive and incompetent to let this happen, he’s not fit to be President.
“He will not get to 1237 delegates, thus Cruz will be the nominee.”
If the guy that got the most delegates doesn’t get exactly 1237, then the guy that got nowhere near that will be the nominee?
And you seriously think people that supported Trump are going to vote for that guy? You must be out of your damn mind.
Go ahead and pull this with a s*it eating grin and see how long that smile lasts.
Party primaries are not organized according to any common rule, people who vote in them are not voting as citizens but rather as party members, which more than 50% of the time is essentially a fraud.
Each party, NOT the "voters", get to choose the nominee who represents them best. The idea that in New Hampshire (for example) I can change my party registration on the way in to vote, and change it back on the way out, eliminates any "sanctity" associated with the act of voting.
The party convention is not, despite appearances, a representative body. Since the practice of assigning delegate seats through some sort of process where idiots with minimal or no connection to the party vote, after being pulverized by phony "debates" and paid advertising, the results have been less than spectacular.
If the idea of political parties is going to survive (and history tells us that it won't) - but if parties are to survive, reform is necessary.
Two reforms, in particular, are vital:
1) Return to the 2/3 rule. A nominee with 49% opposition among the most committed party men is going to lose, all things being equal. Force the factions to come together at the convention and choose a nominee with broad support.
2) If primary elections are used to choose delegates, require evidence of serious and prolonged party activism to enfranchise an elector. Registration for at least five years, donations over those five years of >$1000 or > 100 hours of volunteer work over that time, for example.
If the parties die, it's fine with me. As we go increasingly fascist, it's probably inevitable,
But the idea that "the sanctity of voting citizens" is how people get nominated is just ridiculous.
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