Ted Cruz fires back at Mitt Romney: You got 'clobbered' by Obama for a reason (July 2015 Flashback)

Business Insider ^ | 7/30/2015 | Colin Campbell

[jimbo123]

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) isn't backing off the tough rhetoric he's used to describe the Iran nuclear deal, despite criticism leveled by 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Thursday.

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Cruz, 2016 presidential candidate, fired back at Romney in a Thursday radio interview with KFYO's Chad Hasty.

"So Mitt Romney's tweet today said, 'Gosh, this rhetoric is not helpful,'" Cruz said. "John Adams famously said, 'Facts are stubborn things.' Describing the actual facts is not using rhetoric; it is called speaking the truth."

The senator recalled what he described as a critical moment during the 2012 presidential race: A back-and-forth over that year's attack on a diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya.

"Part of the reason that Mitt Romney got clobbered by Barack Obama is because we all remember that third debate where Barack Obama turned to Mitt and said, 'I said the Benghazi attack was terrorism and no one is more upset by Benghazi than I am.' And Mitt, I guess listening to his own advice, said, 'Well gosh, I don't want to use any rhetoric. So OK, never mind. I'll just kind of rearrange the pencil on the podium here,'" Cruz said.

He added that the 2016 presidential candidates need to speak up or they will fail like Romney

[RoosterRedux]

Because he didn't think Romney would choke when facing Obama and Candy Crowley.

Choked like a little girl.

[New Jersey Realist]

Politics make for strange bedfellows.

[mabelkitty]

He will vote for him, but not endorse him.
And leave a petty and bitter Kasich to plot his revenge...

[thesligoduffyflynns]

What Cruz has stated is pure rhetoric. It’s like a false flag

[etcb]

Once a false narrative is established, it is hard to overcome, however there are three points I would like to make.

1. While there was indeed some violence in Chicago, there certainly was not a riot.

2. In his statement, Cruz clearly fixed blame for the violence on the persons committing the acts. He did, correctly in my opinion, state that candidates for office were responsible for the tone set by their campaigns.

3. Mr. Trump has mastered the art of inciting his opponents with inflammatory rhetoric then feigning shock when it elicits a response. His act may have been entertaining when he was working with the WWE but it is not appropriate in a presidential election.

[EDINVA]

Why is Romney voting in Utah. What happened to MA, MI, CA?

[skeeter]

The campaign against Cruz has based upon nothing other than negative 'political branding' of the Trump campaign.

Of course he'd not perfect but what is written about him here far surpasses absurd.

[Psalm 144]

Not at all. The construct was broken down into its component and contradictory parts.

The man behind the curtain was scrutinized.

There is no there there. “Ted” does not exist.

[skeeter]

FAR surpasses absurd.

[Steamburg]

Whores are better than politicians. They usually recognize dead clients.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

The true picture a man's character is what he does when he is down not when he is on top.

The reality is that Cruz’ position as the only person between Trump and a runaway path to the nomination is miraculous when you consider the influence of Megyn Kelly and the other “moderators” who did the two things Trump needed most:

1. Throw Trump “into the briar patch” by turning the “debates” into a Reality Show, and

2. Ignore the issues, and ignore Ted Cruz.

If what you do when you are down is the criterion, Cruz is actually a standout.

But as to what Cruz said about Trump after Chicago, I will not defend Cruz. Cruz properly condemned the rioters, of course. But as to anything remotely blaming Trump for the rioters’ actions, silence was the only justifiable posture. Cruz broke that silence, on his own initiative. When you are up against a great counterpuncher, leading with your right is no way to make a living.

[EDINVA]

Trump endorsed Romney on Feb 12, 2012. By then the SC (1/21/12) and FL (1/31/12) primaries had already been held.

FL effectively ended the GOP 2012 primary season, so what do you mean by “early’ primary?

[skimbell]

The field was never wide open.

It was Mitt's turn.

[EDINVA]

“Trump endorsed him [Romney] early when the field was wide open.”

You’ve got a short memory there, ifinnegan.

In 2012, the primary that effectively settled the GOP race was Florida, after Gingrich won in SC. Note those primaries were 1/31 and 1/21, respectively. Note, also, that Trump endorsed Romney on 2/12. So how open was the field then? ha!

[Psalm 144]

There is no absurd like a Dominionist Constitutionalist absurdity.

Let’s hear about the priest class clause again, and the jurisprudence that surrounds it.

[napscoordinator]

We all got duped in 2012. Worst vote I’ve ever give this far. 2016 will be my best vote of my voting life that began in 1988.

[Twinkie]

“Anybody here feeling deep reget for voting Cruz in the
primary? . . “

Yup. - Twinkie here! - IF Cruz & Trump would just join
forces, they could beat the Clinton cabal easily. Trump is
pragmatic. He excoriated Dr. Carson, then gladly accepted
his endorsement later. In politics, you have to be
pragmatic & overlook some petty grievances. Carson, too,
is a big man.

[Godebert]

"Cruz is firm on principle, on the Constitution, which is why I back him."

Do you really believe that Cruz has no understanding of Natural Law and it's importance to the foundation of our republic? If Ted Cruz truly respected our Constitution he would never have run for the office of president.

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

[stocksthatgoup]

Romney is your friend Ted

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Romney won the governorship in Massachusetts by a fluke. In his final debate, his opponent, Shannon O’Brien, asked moderator Tim Russert if he wanted to see her tattoo. I have to believe that faus pas cost her the race. Romney won by a slim margin against a weak unknown candidate.