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Cruz: I'm fine with contested convention
The Hill ^ | 03-09-2016 | Jesse Byrnes

Posted on 03/09/2016 8:09:34 AM PST by scooby321

Ted Cruz says he would have no problem with a contested convention over the summer in the event neither he nor Donald Trump secures enough delegates before then to lock up the Republican presidential nomination.

Trump suggested Wednesday morning on "Fox and Friends" that Cruz was making the statement "because he had such a bad night last night."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; 2016election; brokeredconvention; bush; contestedconvention; cruz; election2016; establishmentcruz; flipflop; gopconvention; lyingted; romney; rubio; stoptrump; stoptrumpmovement; tedcruz; tedspacificpartners; texas; trump; trumpertantrum
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To: CottonBall

I agree those are conservative positions if they are firm positions. But when everything is negotiable there is no conservative principles in that.


321 posted on 03/09/2016 12:29:00 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Be Careful

>>Trump needs to make a smock for Cruz to wear to the next debate, emblazoned with all of the logo patches of his donors.....this is actually what the California legislature is proposing for legislators to wear when speaking from the floor......for all the world to see who is sponsoring who.

This is a GREAT idea.

Also, I was wondering why no one has ever asked Cruz DIRECTLY, to answer with a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’, whether he believes he is anointed to become King and rule over the world.

I would like to see him answer that question at the next debate (wearing the smock you’ve described).


322 posted on 03/09/2016 12:29:54 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: scooby321

But will enough of the base have him figured out in time? That is the question.

The “tea party” was a creation of the GOPe—as is Cruz.

Time for voters to wise up.

(Oh, and Trump ain’t perfect either—but he’s got far more of the right enemies.)


324 posted on 03/09/2016 12:34:37 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: All

I know you Trump supporters lack brain cells, but here is what Cruz ACTUALLY said:

“Ted Cruz says he would have no problem with a contested convention over the summer in the event neither he nor Donald Trump secures enough delegates before then to lock up the Republican presidential nomination.”

In other words, he is not endorsing an attempt to steal delegates from Trump, just a contested convention if nobody has a majority at convention. As despicable as Trump is, I agree if the voters want a fake Republican, give it to them and let him destroy the party and destroy conservatism. Who gives a $$*$& anymore. We are screwed anyway.


325 posted on 03/09/2016 12:35:59 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: scooby321

Cruz: I’m fine with contested convention


Now there is the idiot I know and can’t stand.


326 posted on 03/09/2016 12:39:05 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: scooby321

I see the Trumpsters have no idea what a contested convention is. Trump himself seems to understand that a contested convention will be FACT if he doesn’t get to 1,237.

So, if Trump only has say 1,100 delegates going into the convention and Cruz has 1,000 the battle is just beginning over who the other delegates (372) will be supporting. This is what conventions are for figuring out.

Now I admit, if Trump is sitting at 1236 and doesn’t get the nomination it would be ridiculous (and unlikely since he only needs to flip one delegate to get there).

Maybe the Trumpsters are getting this confused with a brokered convention, which would basically wipe away all the primary results. This is the screw job the establishment is planning to get Kasich or Romney in.


327 posted on 03/09/2016 12:42:52 PM PST by gore_sux (Ellison's Minnesotastan = America's terrorist training haven)
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To: gore_sux

These other losers need to get out and throw there support to Trump.


328 posted on 03/09/2016 12:46:28 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: gore_sux

Or maybe they understand that Cruz is “fine with contested convention” because it’s a near certainty he won’t make it to 1237.


329 posted on 03/09/2016 12:49:51 PM PST by moehoward
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To: calisurfer

Yep, just win baby. Winning solves all these problems.

Frankly with Ohio and Florida being winner-take-all I don’t see how Trump doesn’t get to 1237. Rubio and Kasich are non-factors and are in fact helping Trump by staying in the race. Cruz would have to have quite a surge to stop Trump if he takes these two states.


330 posted on 03/09/2016 12:51:56 PM PST by gore_sux (Ellison's Minnesotastan = America's terrorist training haven)
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To: for-q-clinton

Cruz is more likely to waver, being a politician . Businessmen don’t make bad deals that lose money or they go out of business


331 posted on 03/09/2016 12:53:40 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: pepsi_junkie
Are you saying that if Trump doesn't have enough delegates they ought to dismiss the rule and give it to him anyway? That sounds like a brokered convention to me, and I don't support it whether it goes FOR or AGAINST Trump.

Honestly, I don't know what the details of the rules are, but whatever they are, they should be followed in a fair and impartial manner. I am certainly not suggesting that any rule be dismissed for anyone, and I am perfectly sure that Cruz is not suggesting any such thing either.

So, if the Convention arrives and none of the candidates has amassed the magic number of delegates, what happens? The nominations are made, a vote taken, no-one wins, and the contested convention begins. That is all that Cruz is saying, it seems to me: it is nothing more than an objective statement of the facts. I certainly see no reason for the Trump folks' hand-wringing and pearl-clutching.

Fair disclosure: I favor Ted Cruz and think it likely he will have more delegates than Donald Trump by the time of the convention, but I am far from certain that he will have sufficient delegates for a first ballot nomination. I'm pretty darned sure Trump won't. What happens then? I don't know, but this nomination does not belong to anyone by right. I hope that someone has all the delegates required to ensure a first ballot success, but we will have to wait to see how this plays out.

332 posted on 03/09/2016 12:55:35 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Truthsearcher
What does that have to do anything.

Because the GOP changed the rules so that it was going to MUCH more likely to be a contested convention.

The purpose of the primary is to identify a candidate that can unify the party for the general election, and a candidate demonstrate he can do this by getting the majority of delegates to vote for him.

Wrong. A candidate demonstrates that by getting a majority of the primary voters and states. THe delegates are NOT the party. The VOTERS are.
333 posted on 03/09/2016 1:02:51 PM PST by Girlene
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To: gore_sux

Yep, just win baby. Winning solves all these problems.

Frankly with Ohio and Florida being winner-take-all I don’t see how Trump doesn’t get to 1237. Rubio and Kasich are non-factors and are in fact helping Trump by staying in the race. Cruz would have to have quite a surge to stop Trump if he takes these two states.


It’s all over except for the GOPe shenanigans...which include Cruz Rubio & Kasich. I agree that Trump’s wins (starting with Florida & Ohio) should be decisive enough to head of the crap that might be thrown at him...it’ll be interesting.


334 posted on 03/09/2016 1:05:14 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: 20yearsofinternet
In addition to that, they completely ignore what he said THREE DAYS AGO (before the Bush camp began calling the shots). They’re mincing words between contested/brokered, like it matters. It doesn’t. This flies in the face of what Ted just said the other day.

Except it doesn't. From your link:

"Any time you hear people talking about a brokered convention, I think that is the fevered talk of the Washington establishment," he continued. "The Washington establishment is in a panic. They're confused. They don't understand what's happening."

335 posted on 03/09/2016 1:15:55 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Spunky

They choose to ignore the difference because it suits their agenda. It’s dishonesty and not ignorance.


336 posted on 03/09/2016 1:18:49 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Mastador1

yes they are the rules, but when Cruz said he did not want it and said let the voters decide until he saw the bad results last night and then on top of that he said this after now getting in bed with the establisment.

“Let me encourage other members of the establishment: Keep supporting Donald Trump because every time you do it, what it is doing is telling conservatives all over the country is where you stand and who stands with you”.
- Ted Cruz, New Hampshire stump speech


337 posted on 03/09/2016 1:19:30 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: chris37
I want to ensure that WHOEVER has the most delegates is given the nomination

Then what you are saying is that you want the GOP to change the rules at the last minute to give the nomination to "WHOEVER has the most delegates" rather than the candidate that gets >50% support among the delegates as has been the rule.

Again I ask you...If Jeb Bush were leading a pack of 3 anti-establishment candidates but only had 40-45% of the vote, wouldn't you think that it would be fair for the anti-establishment candidates to release their delegates to get behind one of them to defeat the establishment candidate? That has always been the rule. Why should we change it for Trump?

Do you think if after the last primary the delegate count is Trump-42%, Cruz-37%, Kasich-18%, Rubio-2%, Carson-1%....the last 3 candidates should't be able to release their delegates?

338 posted on 03/09/2016 1:20:24 PM PST by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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To: bushwon

“Let me encourage other members of the establishment: Keep supporting Donald Trump because every time you do it, what it is doing is telling conservatives all over the country is where you stand and who stands with you”.
- Ted Cruz, New Hampshire stump speech


339 posted on 03/09/2016 1:21:43 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: tatown

To end the ongoing controversy over the name of Washington D.C.’s professional football team, the “Redskins”, Republican presidential hopeful Ted Cruz has announced that if elected, he will rename the team, “The Washington Maple Leafs.”


340 posted on 03/09/2016 1:25:03 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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