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*LIVE 3/8/16 GOP Primary Thread (MI, MS, ID, HI)*
self | 3/8/16 | tatown

Posted on 03/08/2016 5:24:01 AM PST by tatown

Hawaii · 19 delegates Last poll closes at 11:00 PM CT

Idaho · 32 delegates Last poll closes at 10:00 PM CT

Michigan · 59 delegates Last poll closes at 8:00 PM CT

Mississippi · 40 delegates Last poll closes at 7:00 PM CT


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Idaho; US: Michigan; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; cruz; gop; hawaii; idaho; mi2016; michigan; mississippi; primary; republican; republicans; rubio; trump
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To: Darren McCarty

“Where’s your constitutional law degree? “

Birth Certificate. US Citizen. Where’s Cruz’s??

For you to claim it takes a law degree to understand the US constitution means you flunk civics 101. It is retarded to think US citizens cannot read the US Constitution without a college degree.


161 posted on 03/08/2016 10:26:35 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: jjsheridan5
they would be heavily outnumbered by establishment types...the establishment is so entrenched

Not if all the establishment types were ousted, forced out by term limits. At some point the cancer should get purged it seems to me. Maybe not right away but sooner or later. It's A solution not THE solution. One of many that I think could help.

162 posted on 03/08/2016 10:26:47 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: tatown

No early exit polls yet?


163 posted on 03/08/2016 10:27:53 AM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: TontoKowalski

[I can’t imagine Trump doesn’t win Mississippi convincingly]

Of course, he will. He’ll win it the same way Thad Cochran defeated Chris McDaniel, with Democrat crossover voters.


164 posted on 03/08/2016 10:28:11 AM PST by KansasGirl (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: Jim 0216
I don't see any reason for Trump to ever drop out. Either he wins or he helps his good friend win. I wouldn't waste a neuron for a nanosecond wishing he would drop out.

I think the enduring power and glory of the Presidency is Trump's motivation. He craves the worship. He is an impostor because there is nothing conservative about him.

165 posted on 03/08/2016 10:28:24 AM PST by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: InterceptPoint; manc; All
Waiting patiently for any evidence of fraud in ME. Waiting. Wating. Waiting.

Maine fraud

166 posted on 03/08/2016 10:30:45 AM PST by the jogger
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To: Jim 0216
Not if all the establishment types were ousted, forced out by term limits.

If you are looking for a sufficient number of establishment types to be ousted, and not replaced by clones (remembering that establishment types can be very deceptive when running for office, and the establishment knows very well what voters are looking for), I think that you are looking for the political equivalent of an 80-game hitting streak. Most establishment types who are ousted will simply be replaced by other establishment types, and term limits will accomplish nothing.
167 posted on 03/08/2016 10:30:56 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: KansasGirl

Keep telling yourself that.


168 posted on 03/08/2016 10:31:21 AM PST by The Toll
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To: over3Owithabrain

Don’t forget Heidi


169 posted on 03/08/2016 10:31:29 AM PST by georgiegirl
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To: BigEdLB
-- Wild card is that Inds in ID can change to R on the day of the primary and vote. --

According to exit polls in other states, the number of them who do so is fairly small, on the order of 2% of the ballots cast. The DEMs have a pretty hot contest going on themselves, which would generally augur for the DEMs voting in their own primary.

170 posted on 03/08/2016 10:32:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: jjsheridan5

Not if your term-limit amendment contained prohibitions on the reentry of career politicians I wouldn’t think.

At this point, I don’t see how term limits would do more harm than good.


171 posted on 03/08/2016 10:34:03 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: tatown

What I care about is Michigan and Mississippi, I care about EVERY state, but these two are trend setters.

Trump swept the South, which some say among Crtz supporters should have been Cruz country in the begunnung before the actual results were reality. I suspect Trump should therefore win Mississippi.

Michigan has a lot of Muslims, Not sure if this will have any factor here, but they do come from a background and culture of dirty tricks. But in the same, a lot of voters are reacting to the more extremist Muslims and thus would tend to vote Trump, Michigan will be very important in the general, I hope Trump wins to set the stage for the general.

But no predictions from me. Polls are “ok”, but that is about all they are, just “ok”. I don’t bank my life on polls. I have never been polled in my 60 years except once, from a company that had a refinery in the state and was polling any negative reaction from the public regarding some local news that made the refinery look bad. Other than that, zero.

How many here have ever been polled in this election cycle? I suppose some. But people like me never answer the phone or cell if I don’t recognize the number. Or I am not home. I do vote on internet polls, however, for what they are worth.

Go Trump.


172 posted on 03/08/2016 10:37:46 AM PST by ShivaFan
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To: Jim 0216

Not sure I follow your reasoning how term limits would make it worse for outsiders to get in.


Because we’re fighting a Politican-Donor Complex. They will just shuffle the chairs on the deck with term limits. It’s all very incestuous. We need to go after their support base: crony capitalist corruption.


173 posted on 03/08/2016 10:37:54 AM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: the jogger

Interesting article.


174 posted on 03/08/2016 10:38:17 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ShivaFan

But polls are usually an indicator. Media now saying they’re crap, don’t even look at them just watch the results. They haven’t been able to lie about Trump in the polls because his numbers are too high but can they just dismiss them? Apparently.

Hope the American people wake up.


175 posted on 03/08/2016 10:39:59 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: KansasGirl

Also the same recipe that led to both Reagan landslides...


176 posted on 03/08/2016 10:40:44 AM PST by tatown (Career politicians got us into this mess and they have no intention of getting us out of it.)
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To: No Dems 2016

Not that I’ve heard. I think those would come out later though.


177 posted on 03/08/2016 10:41:38 AM PST by tatown (Career politicians got us into this mess and they have no intention of getting us out of it.)
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To: Jim 0216
Not if your term-limit amendment contained prohibitions on the reentry of career politicians I wouldn’t think.

They wouldn't need reentry. They would simply select a new candidate from somewhere within the state political hierarchy, and go from there. State parties are full of willing candidates. The "ousted" candidate would simply go to a lobbying firm, a consultancy, or work within the party at the state level. You would still have the same types of people in office, because the donor class, the party infrastructure, and the political lobbying class, would all be unaffected.
178 posted on 03/08/2016 10:41:49 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

They wouldn’t need reentry. They would simply select a new candidate from somewhere within the state political hierarchy, and go from there. State parties are full of willing candidates. The “ousted” candidate would simply go to a lobbying firm, a consultancy, or work within the party at the state level. You would still have the same types of people in office, because the donor class, the party infrastructure, and the political lobbying class, would all be unaffected.


Exactamundo. I use to think it was tin foil hat stuff but after Romney in the box popped up I’ve come realize there really are string pullers in the background.


179 posted on 03/08/2016 10:44:06 AM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Theophilus

There’s something conservative about him, maybe just not as much as you and others may wish.

Nevertheless, he’s trading down to live in public housing for 4-8 years and kept from doing what he loves. I see it as a sacrifice because I think he loves our country. That’s how I and others see it.

You seem to think he’s doing it for worship and not for the sake of our country and others seem to think that too I guess. I just don’t see that and I’m looking pretty closely.

The same with Cruz, I guess. There’s just different folks that see things differently I guess. Well, that’s make the world go ‘round. Where it goes off the rails is where one side belittles the other side for not seeing it the way they do. Without that nonsense, I don’t mind conversing about the whys and the wherefores of the differing views.


180 posted on 03/08/2016 10:44:34 AM PST by Jim W N
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