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Donald Trump Reveals Details of His Health Care Plan
NBC News ^
| 03/02/2016
| Ali Vitali
Posted on 03/02/2016 8:46:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Donald Trump released his health care plan Wednesday evening, finally detailing the way in which he would fulfill his campaign trail promise to repeal and replace Obamacare.
In a seven-point plan posted to his website and publicized by a tweet, Trump says he will do away with the individual health insurance mandate, as well as allow competition over states lines for health care plans, and block grant Medicaid to the states, allowing them to follow through on his prescription to "eliminate fraud, waste and abuse to preserve our precious resources."
The decision to go against the idea of an individual mandate is new for Trump, who told CNN during a February town hall before the South Carolina primary that he "likes the mandate" and that makes him "a little bit different" than other conservatives.
But Wednesday's plan outlines as the first point on the list: "Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to."
He counters that, however, by saying individuals should be allowed to "fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns."
The third bullet point goes on to say that "we must make sure no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance" and that "we must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it."
Further, Trump ties illegal immigration to his healthcare plan, writing "providing healthcare to illegal immigrants costs us some $11 billion annually ... If we were to simply enforce the current immigration laws and restrict the unbridled granting of visas to this country,
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruzlied; dyingonthestreets; election2016; elections; fraudwasteandabuse; healthcare; mumbojumbo; newyork; trump; trumpcare; trumpwasright; trumpyesterdaytoday
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To: SunStar
You should read the article before posting.
To: kik5150
All major carriers allowed pre-existing conditions during annual open enrollment long before Obama ever declared his candidacy for POTUS.
The individual mandate is a failure. It hasn’t brought in enough people into the insurance pools to cover the higher costs that Obamacare has driven up.
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:22:34 PM PST
by
BuckeyeTexan
(There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
To: KittenClaws; Jim Robinson
If Trump goes back on his word, it will tear this Country apart. If Hitlery gets elected, it will tear this Country apart. If Trump stays true to his word, he will make Reagan look like a liberal, and America will enjoy its greatest period of growth and prosperity since the industrial revolution. I’m voting to Make America Great again.
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:23:49 PM PST
by
dware
(Everybody wants to be a patriot, until it's time to do patriot stuff.)
To: KittenClaws
YOU, my dear are the uninformed.
164
posted on
03/02/2016 10:23:58 PM PST
by
Mollypitcher1
(I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
To: SeekAndFind
#5 won’t do anything. If the insurance company is paying the tab, the patient won’t care about the cost of a particular procedure.
To: Luircin
Personally, I see this as a big step in the right direction.I see it as a step further in the wrong direction. More taxpayer funded welfare. Less personal responsibility. More big government involvement. Less reliance on family, church and local community.
But that's just my opinion.
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:26:23 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
To: Jim Robinson
Amen. I can see being skeptical about Trump. I even get it if someone thinks Trump is a complete fraud and doesn’t mean a word of what he says. But I don’t get preferring Hillary over taking a chance that they could be wrong about Trump.
167
posted on
03/02/2016 10:27:57 PM PST
by
Hugin
(Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
To: Yossarian
I had a pre-existing condition (debilitating migraines) for decades. I was never once refused coverage.
168
posted on
03/02/2016 10:30:28 PM PST
by
BuckeyeTexan
(There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
To: SeekAndFind; All
The problem with Trump unthinkingly following in the state sovereignty-ignoring footsteps of both FDR and Obama with respect to establishing social spending programs outside the framework of the Constitution, Trumpcare in this example, is this. Not only will Trumpcare be based on constitutionally nonexistant federal government powers like Obamacare is, but future generations of corrupt lawmakers, lawless presidents and state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices will be able to do anything that they want to do with Trumpcare since public healthcare is not defined by the Constitution.
From a related thread about Trumpcare
After reading about Trumpcare on Trumps web site, Trump and his institutionally indoctrinated advisors (blind leading the blind) are evidently still as clueless as Obamas first, low-information Democratic-controlled Congress was that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the excerpts from Suprme Court case opinions further down in this post, the excerpts written by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices.
Regarding major problems with Trumpcare, consider that Trumps proposal for federal interstate health insurance reform actually has the same major constitutional problem as the Obamacare insurance mandate.
More specifically, regardless what lawless Obamas state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices want everybody to think about the constitutionality of the Obamacare insurance mandate, note the fourth entry in the list below from Paul v. Virginia. In that case, state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that regulating insurance is not within the scope of Congresss Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), regardless if the parties negotiating the insurance policy are domiciled in different states.
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State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added] - Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
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Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
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Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass. -Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
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4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphasis added] of indemnity against loss. - Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
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Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress. - Linder v. United States, 1925.
The above excerpts are why Ive been ranting that Trump needs to be promoting a healthcare amendment to the Constitution on the campaign trail. (Note that the states are not obligated to ratify any proposed amendment to the Constitution.)
Remember in November !
When patriots elect Trump, Cruz, or whatever conservative they elect, they also need to elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the president, but also protect the states from unconstitutional federal government overreach as evidenced by unconstitutional federal healthcare programs, Obamas or Trump's.
Also, consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.
To: P-Marlowe
Pre-existing could be handled this way: With a premium based on income, the person qualifies for the medical coverage aspect of welfare/medicare/socialsecurity (whatever you want to call it) and is enrolled in their state’s welfare network, without having to meet the stringent asset restrictions imposed on those who collect full welfare.
how’s that?
To: Mollypitcher1
YOU, my dear are the uninformed.
I can only suppose you could not find the constitutionality I asked from you originally, so you must project to cover your own ignorance.
So please, sleep well tonight in your false belief that you are the smartest person in the room. No! The city, no! The country...perhaps the entire planet!
LOL!
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:37:13 PM PST
by
KittenClaws
( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
To: Berlin_Freeper
Ever hear of competition? When we restore our manufacturing base and have a strong economy again where people can find jobs wherever they look like it used to be, we will be open to competitive bidding and competition in everything again. Competition is not allowed by the current politicians in order to line their own pockets.
172
posted on
03/02/2016 10:37:34 PM PST
by
Mollypitcher1
(I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
To: KittenClaws
Just a lot smarter than you, my little fuzzy kitten.
173
posted on
03/02/2016 10:38:26 PM PST
by
Mollypitcher1
(I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
To: blueplum
Good plan. It’s a start. Will be further refined by Congress. Now the question is will Paul Ryan be obstructionist or will he work with Trump to get this through?
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:39:39 PM PST
by
flaglady47
(TRUMP ROCKS L)
To: Mollypitcher1
LOL!
I’m glad you have the confidence it takes to believe that.
175
posted on
03/02/2016 10:43:06 PM PST
by
KittenClaws
( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
To: Ciexyz; SeekAndFind; All
Currently there is a plan in place helping people get health care “for nothing.” With Obamacare eliminated we will be back to the legally mandated more expensive care in Emergency Rooms, and they will still get “something for nothing” but it will cost more and we will still pay for it.
To: blueplum
As long as you recognize that this is, in effect, a form of socialized medicine, then there’s nothing wrong with it. It sure as neck isn’t a free market solution. Is it?
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:47:49 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
To: BuckeyeTexan
Everything is negotiable. That’s a given. The idea is to negotiate in our best interest. Convince the other guy to move our way. That’s what made Reagan great. That’s the art of the deal, so to speak.
178
posted on
03/02/2016 10:48:03 PM PST
by
Jim Robinson
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
To: KittenClaws
179
posted on
03/02/2016 10:52:16 PM PST
by
Mollypitcher1
(I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
To: KittenClaws
The basic idea of the proposal is to repeal Obamacare and then open it up for better competition across state lines, ie, go back to market driven private insurance. Get the government out of the way.
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posted on
03/02/2016 10:52:29 PM PST
by
Jim Robinson
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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