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NY Judge To Decide If Ted Cruz Is American
Metro New York ^ | Today 1:07 pm | JASON NUCKOLLS

Posted on 02/29/2016 3:59:25 PM PST by drewh

A New York judge will hear arguments on Tuesday in a lawsuit that challenges Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s ability to run for president given that he was born in Canada.

State Supreme Court Justice David Weinstein will hear the claim of two men who contend that Cruz is not a citizen of the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to run for president, NBC has reported. Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada.

Barry Korman and William Gallo will argue that despite Cruz’s mother being an American, the senator is not a citizen because such status cannot be passed from parent to child, Newsday reported.

The defense of Cruz’s place in the election is being argued by the New York Board of Elections, which put Cruz on the ballot, NBC added.

Cruz, a lawyer, was elected to be a senator from Texas in 2012, Newsday added.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; alexjones; birthers; canadian; cruz; cruzios; lawsuit; nbcofcanada; notnaturalborn; ruling; tinfoilhat; tinfoilhattrump
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To: drewh

A “natural born Citizen” of the United States is a child born in the USA of two (2) U.S. Citizens. The parents can be Citizens by Birth or they can be Citizens by Naturalization after immigrating to the USA.

But to create a “natural born Citizen” of the United States both parents must be Citizens at the time the child is born in the USA.

See this legal reference book used by the founders and framers of our Constitution: Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law, Vol.1 Chapter 19 Section 212, Emer de Vattel, 1758-1797.

Like a three legged stool if you take away any of these three citizenship legs of the Article II constitutional intent and requirement to being a natural born Citizen, i.e., being born with unity of citizenship in and sole allegiance to the USA, the child is born with more than one country’s citizenship and claim of allegiance/citizenship on them at their birth and thus they are NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States.

And as in the analogy of a stool designed to stand on three legs and it is missing a leg, it falls down, likewise the person’s claim to natural born Citizenship fails if the person does not have all three citizenship legs required to be a natural born Citizen at the time of their birth.


21 posted on 02/29/2016 4:08:20 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Are the children of Viet Nam vets born overseas to Vietnamese women NBC?

Excellent question.
22 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:26 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: Las Vegas Ron

not if born in Nam and not if Mama was not American citizen


23 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:36 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

not if born in Nam and not if Mama was not American citizen


24 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:40 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Is a candidate that was born in Panama City outside of the Canal Zone a NBC? The answer is yes.

As far as children of Vietnam vets go, I don’t know the answer from an academic standpoint. Were the mother and the father married at the time of birth?


25 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:41 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: drewh
NY Judge To Decide If Ted Cruz Is American

What does that have to do with anything? Of course he's an American, all Canadians are Americans.

State Supreme Court Justice David Weinstein will hear the claim of two men who contend that Cruz is not a citizen of the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to run for president

I hadn't heard that minimal standard before. He's probably a citizen...but just barely.

What he needs to be is born to TWO US citizens within the boundaries of US jurisdiction. Is the "Judge" somehow going to make all that happen?

26 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:41 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Is a candidate that was born in Panama City outside of the Canal Zone a NBC? The answer is yes.

As far as children of Vietnam vets go, I don’t know the answer from an academic standpoint. Were the mother and the father married at the time of birth?


27 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:42 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: Bogie

Weinstein was appointed by Patterson, a liberal NY gov. So Weinstein may not like Cruz, may pull something off here. The enemy of my enemy is my friend...


28 posted on 02/29/2016 4:09:50 PM PST by Rennes Templar (President Trump: It's all over but the counting)
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To: drewh
Barry Korman and William Gallo will argue that despite Cruz’s mother being an American, the senator is not a citizen because such status cannot be passed from parent to child, Newsday reported.

Either these two clowns are completely ignorant or they're setting up this case for a certain loss.

My guess would be the latter.

29 posted on 02/29/2016 4:10:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: drewh

30 posted on 02/29/2016 4:10:49 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: NYRepublican72

He is not a natural born citizen according to the Constitution. He “may” be a citizen, naturalized. Time to reveal the sealed documents.


31 posted on 02/29/2016 4:10:52 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: HarleyLady27

So when did Cruz become a citizen?

Either he applied to become one or he was born a citizen.


32 posted on 02/29/2016 4:10:58 PM PST by JRochelle (A vote for Trump in the primary is a vote for Hillary in November.)
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To: drewh

>>> the senator is not a citizen because such status cannot be passed from parent to child

Ummm... thats EXACTLY how it is attained!... by inheritance.

I seriously hope that is not what they are going to argue.

The parents DO pass on their citizenship to children. Thats what natural born IS. Place of birth is secondary to the test.

The fact that his father was NOT American AND his birth was in Canada is what makes Cruz NOT natural born American.

You cannot be natural born of two countries... it is ONE or the OTHER... This case with Cruz illustrates why the test includes citizenship of parents AND birthplace.

Cruz is NB of Canada. Canadian father + born in Canada.

Dual citizenship?... fine... but his American citizenship is naturalized.


33 posted on 02/29/2016 4:11:30 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That’s the great thing about America. What other county has a political system where anyone, no matter how humble their beginning, no matter where they were born, can immigrate here and become President?


34 posted on 02/29/2016 4:12:03 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Cruz, as a Constitutional lawyer, should have nailed this issue down before declaring his candidacy.”

He hoped no one would notice?


35 posted on 02/29/2016 4:12:06 PM PST by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: DoughtyOne

That is beautiful!!!


36 posted on 02/29/2016 4:12:13 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: JRochelle

He can be a ‘citizen’ of the United States, but he was not born on American Soil, so therefore he is not a ‘Natural Born Citizen’....there is a difference...


37 posted on 02/29/2016 4:12:27 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: drewh

I would think this should be filed in federal court, not state court, since the matter of whether or not he is a natural born citizen is a federal determination (i.e., US Constitution), and not a state determination.


38 posted on 02/29/2016 4:12:32 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: drewh

The question isn’t if he is “American” or even born a citizen. The question is whether he is a “natural born citizen” as stated in the constitution. Another low information reporter.


39 posted on 02/29/2016 4:12:46 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

No you are either born a natural born citizen or you apply to be a citizen.


40 posted on 02/29/2016 4:13:29 PM PST by JRochelle (A vote for Trump in the primary is a vote for Hillary in November.)
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