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NY Judge To Decide If Ted Cruz Is American
Metro New York ^ | Today 1:07 pm | JASON NUCKOLLS

Posted on 02/29/2016 3:59:25 PM PST by drewh

A New York judge will hear arguments on Tuesday in a lawsuit that challenges Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s ability to run for president given that he was born in Canada.

State Supreme Court Justice David Weinstein will hear the claim of two men who contend that Cruz is not a citizen of the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to run for president, NBC has reported. Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada.

Barry Korman and William Gallo will argue that despite Cruz’s mother being an American, the senator is not a citizen because such status cannot be passed from parent to child, Newsday reported.

The defense of Cruz’s place in the election is being argued by the New York Board of Elections, which put Cruz on the ballot, NBC added.

Cruz, a lawyer, was elected to be a senator from Texas in 2012, Newsday added.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; alexjones; birthers; canadian; cruz; cruzios; lawsuit; nbcofcanada; notnaturalborn; ruling; tinfoilhat; tinfoilhattrump
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To: drewh

Terrible reporting. Citizen is not issue nor is it a presidential requirement


101 posted on 02/29/2016 4:51:08 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: centurion316

Whether I like Cruz or not, is not the topic of this discussion, the topic is: Is Cruz natural born citizen by being born on Canadian Soil trying to run for POTUS in America....

And the SCOTUS should take this topic and debate it and make a ruling so this doesn’t happen again, after all that is their job to uphold and enforce the Constitution of the United States of America...


102 posted on 02/29/2016 4:51:23 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: drewh

It’s simple: Does he, or does he not, have naturalization papers? If he does, he is not natural born. If he doesn’t, then he will have a US birth certificate which means he’s natural born. It isn’t rocket science.

I was born in a US military hospital in Stuttgart, Germany in 1966. My dad was in the Army and my mom was a housewife from South Louisiana. I have a German birth certificate and US naturalization papers.

When they returned from Germany they had to swear in front of a Federal Judge in New Orleans that I was their child. In return they were given a brown piece of paper that even today I must keep in a safe to ensure it doesn’t disappear. I have to have it to get my passport renewed.

When I turned 18 in US Navy boot camp, I was required to formally renounce any ties to Germany - in writing - to the US government.

Despite what the law may be *now* the law *then* is that the US military hospital was not US soil. And even though my parents were US citizens, I was not born on US soil. Therefore, I am *not* natural born and can *never* be president.

So - ask him. He either has a US birth certificate or he has naturalization papers.


103 posted on 02/29/2016 4:51:48 PM PST by DBG8489
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To: drewh

I will be shocked if he goes to the merits of the case and doesn’t dismiss for lack of standing.


104 posted on 02/29/2016 4:51:49 PM PST by iontheball
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To: HarleyLady27

People that insist on their Constitutional right to have a natural born president are derided as “birthers”.

People that insist on their Constitutional right to bear arms are called “gun nuts”.

Only a Constitution hating commie liberal would say such a thing.


105 posted on 02/29/2016 4:51:59 PM PST by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: xzins

Sure— if they say so.... lol. Huge democrat effort at the time— to prove (and they uncovered a lot of cover-up) that his momma was over the border when she birthed him, and that his daddy was.... Canadian. When Arthur as VP took over upon the assassination of the president.


106 posted on 02/29/2016 4:52:56 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: HarleyLady27

Excellent explanation of the theory of natural born citizenship.

Logic and reason dictates that it can’t be otherwise.


107 posted on 02/29/2016 4:55:17 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: HarleyLady27

You are as persistent as you are wrong. There is no ‘three legged stool’ test anywhere but in your head. That is NOT the law. Since you quote Vattell, why not use HIS test; that the children inherit the condition of the parents.


108 posted on 02/29/2016 4:55:21 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/the-three-legged-stool-test-analogy-for-natural-born-citizenship-of-the-united-states-to-constitutional-standards/


109 posted on 02/29/2016 4:58:12 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: drewh; Jim Robinson; r_barton; RoosterRedux; centurion316; scooby321; Durbin; HarleyLady27; ...

This is haywire.

First all the issue is not if Cruz is an American but whether he is a natural born citizen.

Secondly, this is a federal constitutional question and should be decided by a federal court.

This appears to something it isn’t. If Cruz was nominated and then challenged in federal court and the court DQ’d him, he’d be effectively handing the election over to the socialists.

Stupid.


110 posted on 02/29/2016 4:58:43 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Leo Carpathian

I’m not sure he is a citizen. We only have Ted’s word that his mother was not in Canada long enough before his birth to become a Canadian citizen. We know his father became a Canadian citizen & it may be his mother became Canadian too. Who knows. He would unseal the records if he didn’t have something to hide.

We’ve never seen his CRBA or his passport.


111 posted on 02/29/2016 4:58:51 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Any citizenship that is decreed by a law enacted by Congress is naturalization. You assume that the naturalization process only consists of what immigrants go through.


112 posted on 02/29/2016 4:58:57 PM PST by PJBankard (I wouldn't let Obama or Hillary run my Dairy Queen - Wayne Allen Root)
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To: John S Mosby

There is no proof that Arthur was born in Canada, there was only speculation.


113 posted on 02/29/2016 5:02:41 PM PST by PJBankard (I wouldn't let Obama or Hillary run my Dairy Queen - Wayne Allen Root)
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To: Raycpa

Citizenship, specifically natural born citizenship, is a requirement to be President.


114 posted on 02/29/2016 5:04:45 PM PST by PJBankard (I wouldn't let Obama or Hillary run my Dairy Queen - Wayne Allen Root)
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To: drewh

Eh?


115 posted on 02/29/2016 5:04:50 PM PST by OKSooner (Burn it down. Burn it to the ground and punish the guilty, then figure out what to do next.)
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To: drewh
Idiot reporter doesn't get the distinction between "citizen" and "natural born citizen."

No one is claiming that Cruz isn't a citizen.

116 posted on 02/29/2016 5:05:48 PM PST by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Unfortunately, this new crop of “judges” we’ve got over the past 10 years don’t care about no stinkin’ laws. It’s how they feel in their heart. “What would Europe do?”


117 posted on 02/29/2016 5:06:18 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Supreme Court is a joke being played on the American people.)
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To: drewh
At least Weinstein is likely to issue an opinion that, either way, preserves constitutional issues for immediate cert.

My educated guess is that Weinstein says 'eligible' so that, for instance, someone born in Pakistan and raised by wolves can enjoy running for President someday ...

118 posted on 02/29/2016 5:08:29 PM PST by StAnDeliver ("Sweet, sweet tears ..")
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To: Hugin

Hugin:”it goes to SCOTUS and you have a 4/4 split on whether Cruz is eligible? What then?”

In the event of a 4/4 split, the lower court ruling prevails.


119 posted on 02/29/2016 5:09:11 PM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I agree, they have really failed America....Roberts is being blackmailed; no body dares stand up and say how it is for fear obuma will do something to them...McConnell is being blackmailed with half of the Senate, and the same thing in the House...

If only people would have stood up like are beginning to now to vet obuma, we wouldn’t be in this conversation or the mess we are in today...

Obuma has NO business being POTUS, this is the very reason of ‘Natural Born Citizen’....


120 posted on 02/29/2016 5:09:52 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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