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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The socialist side of facism isn't Trump’s fault.

Are you kidding? He LOVES the power to control.

He’s on a war footing against terrorism. And this particular idea of his [on this thread] is also a bad idea, but how are his plans outrageously at odds with wartime presidents?

Every wartime President we've had but for Lincoln failed to understand how Constitutional national defense is to be conducted. The States were to supply the troops.

You are failing to address the key point about Trump's fascism: state control of private enterprise. That he has come out for continued (and illegal) Federal land ownership, Federal control of medical care, and Federal direction of private enterprise are essentially fascist. The guy has no concept or appreciation for Constitutionally limited government.

258 posted on 02/29/2016 9:44:43 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

We are both talking around each other. You see, the words, ‘Hitler’ and ‘brownshirt’ tend to paint certain images. More on that later. For now, responding to a previous post ....

“Well, in Trump and his followers, I’m seeing it now and am terribly concerned about where it goes.”

God bless you for caring about our nation. But sometimes people care so much that they drive other people nuts!

“Here we have a well reasoned article, one that I might have written. Look at the responses. There isn’t a single Trup post on the first page that addresses content.”

Typical partizanship. It’s human nature and dominates supporters of all popular candidates, including Cruz supporters.

‘The point of my post is that he is an ICON of the “cheap labor express ...”

Back to basics — a contractor managed the entire thing with the Poles. Trump had deep pockets and was sued based on a loophole. So every aspect of the attack on Trump as ‘icon of illegal labor’ is probably more bogus than you might think.

You also mentioned Trump having possible mob ties. I heard Hannity talk with a lawyer last night. In New York it’s impossible to build anything unless you do business with shady characters. They even have monopolies there due to union laws and other regulations. Los Vegas? I suspect it’s even worse there. That’s undoubtedly why Cruz waited so long to bring it up. October surprise.

“So, your reply does not even begin to address the point of the citation.”

My point is more closely attuned to the thread — Trump wants tougher lawsuits because he’s feeling maliciously libeled.

Regardless of your points, Trump’s best known accusers are claiming that he’s a hypocrite on illegal immigration.

He said ‘thirty years ago’, and he’s absolutely right.

I don’t expect many people had much time to deliberate how silly it is to call him an icon of foreign labor IF Polish defectors of the Soviet Bloc are the best example.

That was all sizzle, and Trump’s team was given little time to counter it. For the first time I think he realized how amazing his accomplishments have been on this campaign trail and how near-impossible it would be for other business leaders to duplicate them.

**Maybe hedge fund investors could survive this political minefield, but how on earth could a genuine business leader who really gets involved with a particular enterprize come out without drawing back a stump? The real problem solvers don’t just play the market. They actually know how to make things happen. But our nation is so awash with counter-productive regulations and political pressures, and so many palms need to be greased just to do business, if Trump loses I doubt we will ever see a real problem solving business leader in the White House again. And even military leaders can be nitpicked the same way. How could Ike survive a modern campaign? [Not aiming this at you. But Cruz, Rubio, and others would have a chance to question Ike’s military decisions, his career, poker games, etc.]

“It is loud misdirection insinuating that my point is somehow biased against legitimate immigration ...”

When they attacked him over the Polish illegals 30 years ago — hired by a contractor — THAT was misdirection.

And you think this is about discrediting you? I don’t care how smart someone is: you need time to think and hash things out with other people. And you weren’t given that time.

Just as you wrote that the Constitution should not have been written in a vacuum and that the anti-Federalists ought to be involved, same here. When it comes to the constant deception of politics it can get almost as tricky as drafting a Constitution. It takes deliberation to sort things out properly.

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Brownshirt Warning

There is a possible brown shirtthreat, but not here in the US. I’ll post that next as a vanity piece, and you can choose to weigh in or not.


260 posted on 03/01/2016 3:59:29 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: Carry_Okie

Glenn Beck, Brownshirts, and Reality [vanity]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3403666/posts

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Now regarding your legislative comparisons [which cannot begin to justify the comparison to Hitler ...]

‘You are failing to address the key point about Trump’s fascism: state control of private enterprise.’

Obama is a good example of radical socialism that coul easily parallel facism. But even the extreme of Obama is only comparable to Hitler when you add his support of abortion.

‘That he has come out for continued (and illegal) Federal land ownership ...’

Preserving national parks is not Hitleresque or even facist. It’s Teddy Roposevelt progressivism.

‘Federal control of medical care ...’

The entire healthcare system was distorted with government meddling even before Obama. Even if Trump wanted us to go ‘cold turkey’ free market with healthcare, the republicans in congress would not let him.

Falls short of being Hitleresque or even facist.

’ ... and Federal direction of private enterprise are essentially fascist.’

No more so than GW Bush with his assistance in paying for medicine.

That word, facist, is poisoning any point you are trying to make.

‘The guy has no concept or appreciation for Constitutionally limited government.’

If true, that puts him in a gargantuan club. Like I said, we need education reform. But actually, I believe he gets it. Trump’s judicial nominees are awesome.


261 posted on 03/01/2016 4:12:01 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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