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To: Carry_Okie

We are both talking around each other. You see, the words, ‘Hitler’ and ‘brownshirt’ tend to paint certain images. More on that later. For now, responding to a previous post ....

“Well, in Trump and his followers, I’m seeing it now and am terribly concerned about where it goes.”

God bless you for caring about our nation. But sometimes people care so much that they drive other people nuts!

“Here we have a well reasoned article, one that I might have written. Look at the responses. There isn’t a single Trup post on the first page that addresses content.”

Typical partizanship. It’s human nature and dominates supporters of all popular candidates, including Cruz supporters.

‘The point of my post is that he is an ICON of the “cheap labor express ...”

Back to basics — a contractor managed the entire thing with the Poles. Trump had deep pockets and was sued based on a loophole. So every aspect of the attack on Trump as ‘icon of illegal labor’ is probably more bogus than you might think.

You also mentioned Trump having possible mob ties. I heard Hannity talk with a lawyer last night. In New York it’s impossible to build anything unless you do business with shady characters. They even have monopolies there due to union laws and other regulations. Los Vegas? I suspect it’s even worse there. That’s undoubtedly why Cruz waited so long to bring it up. October surprise.

“So, your reply does not even begin to address the point of the citation.”

My point is more closely attuned to the thread — Trump wants tougher lawsuits because he’s feeling maliciously libeled.

Regardless of your points, Trump’s best known accusers are claiming that he’s a hypocrite on illegal immigration.

He said ‘thirty years ago’, and he’s absolutely right.

I don’t expect many people had much time to deliberate how silly it is to call him an icon of foreign labor IF Polish defectors of the Soviet Bloc are the best example.

That was all sizzle, and Trump’s team was given little time to counter it. For the first time I think he realized how amazing his accomplishments have been on this campaign trail and how near-impossible it would be for other business leaders to duplicate them.

**Maybe hedge fund investors could survive this political minefield, but how on earth could a genuine business leader who really gets involved with a particular enterprize come out without drawing back a stump? The real problem solvers don’t just play the market. They actually know how to make things happen. But our nation is so awash with counter-productive regulations and political pressures, and so many palms need to be greased just to do business, if Trump loses I doubt we will ever see a real problem solving business leader in the White House again. And even military leaders can be nitpicked the same way. How could Ike survive a modern campaign? [Not aiming this at you. But Cruz, Rubio, and others would have a chance to question Ike’s military decisions, his career, poker games, etc.]

“It is loud misdirection insinuating that my point is somehow biased against legitimate immigration ...”

When they attacked him over the Polish illegals 30 years ago — hired by a contractor — THAT was misdirection.

And you think this is about discrediting you? I don’t care how smart someone is: you need time to think and hash things out with other people. And you weren’t given that time.

Just as you wrote that the Constitution should not have been written in a vacuum and that the anti-Federalists ought to be involved, same here. When it comes to the constant deception of politics it can get almost as tricky as drafting a Constitution. It takes deliberation to sort things out properly.

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Brownshirt Warning

There is a possible brown shirtthreat, but not here in the US. I’ll post that next as a vanity piece, and you can choose to weigh in or not.


260 posted on 03/01/2016 3:59:29 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
You see, the words, ‘Hitler’ and ‘brownshirt’ tend to paint certain images.

Stop talking at me like I'm an idiot. You just don't like that the parallels are accurate.

Typical partizanship. It’s human nature and dominates supporters of all popular candidates, including Cruz supporters.

Nonsense. Did you read them? You complained and then got feedback DATA that blew your thesis.

Back to basics — a contractor managed the entire thing with the Poles. Trump had deep pockets and was sued based on a loophole. So every aspect of the attack on Trump as 'icon of illegal labor' is probably more bogus than you might think.

Strawman. He uses illegal Mexicans in his hotels, casinos, golfcourses, and construction projects too. That's just harder to document because this one has a court case judgment.

In New York it's impossible to build anything unless you do business with shady characters. They even have monopolies there due to union laws and other regulations. Los Vegas? I suspect it's even worse there.

I know. That means one must show what the quid pro quo really was, which is exceptionally difficult. The point is more serious: It means he may be open to blackmail.

My point is more closely attuned to the thread — Trump wants tougher lawsuits because he's feeling maliciously libeled.

Tough. The evidentiary standards should remain unchanged. The penalites on the other hand should change, but not the way Trump wants.

Regardless of your points, Trump’s best known accusers are claiming that he’s a hypocrite on illegal immigration.

He said 'thirty years ago,' and he’s absolutely right.

He's still doing it.

When they attacked him over the Polish illegals 30 years ago — hired by a contractor — THAT was misdirection.

How's that strawman looking now?

262 posted on 03/01/2016 7:54:19 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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