Nigel Farage And George Galloway's Grassroots Out Alliance Mercilessly Mocked Online

huffingtonpost.co.uk ^ | Feb 20, 2016 | George Bowden

[Berlin_Freeper]

The revelation that Nigel Farage and George Galloway are to work together on the European Union referendum has been mercilessly mocked, with the unlikely pact described as an "unholy alliance".

The Ukip and Respect party leaders appeared together at a rally for the Grassroots Out campaign on Friday, launching the campaign to persuade voters to end Britain's membership of the EU.

Yet instead of being welcomed, Galloway's appearance prompted a mass walkout at the event, and the party leaders' partnership is now the subject of intense scrutiny - and mockery.

[Bigg Red]

Ok, thanks for the info.

Still icky to me, though.

[Vanders9]

Galloway was invited because he is pro leaving the EU, and for no other reason than that. Partisam politics that absolutely divide people unless they completely conform to every point on a political platform are the antithesis of democracy. It is certainly a stance that the leave EU campaign cannot afford to have. It very nearly lost the vote on Scottish independence last year, when pro-union politicians refused to have any help from UKIP. Although UKIP is very anti-EU, it cannot afford to let the general public think that leaving the EU is a UKIP only stance. We have to show we have broad support across existing political structures.

If UKIP has more members now than last year, if it has more votes at the last election than it did at the one before, if had more MP's than it did the election before (only one but more than zero), if it has more MEP's now than it did in the last European election cycle, then surely if follows that its star is still rising. Your argument basically boils down to "UKIP aren't going anywhere, therefore for meaningfull change you need to vote for someone else", which basically is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't think UKIP has peaked at all, but I'm OK that all the clever people convince themselves it has. Victory will be all the sweeter.

Cameron has invested his political credit very heavily into staying in the EU.

[Vanders9]

I know someone who was actually at this meeting, and he stated quite confidently that there was no "mass walkout", or "a walkout", or even "one or two walking out in disgust".

The media lie to us. They lie to us all the time. They don't do it out of malice, they don't do it out of incompetence. They do it firstly because controversy sells their product, and secondly because they are all pushing an agenda.

[SunkenCiv]

UKIP has moved to dump the NF residue that came aboard, and bigots who show their true colors, generally after they’ve run for office, and that’s great, but it *doesn’t matter why* Galloway was invited, it was a stupid move, because he’s all about anti-Semitism and jihad-coddling, and little else.

UKIP’s position on the EU appears to be shared by a lot of people across all party lines — probably not a majority — who otherwise find nothing appealing about UKIP. The Conservatives won an outright majority thanks in part to the failure of Scottish independence in 2014; because the union had endured, the SNP destroyed Labour in its former Scottish strongholds. The Tories also won in part because Cameron promised an up-or-down referendum on EU membership, but offered nothing else to UKIP.

UKIP — zero seats.

What’s the next move? If the referendum fails, and the UK stays in the EU? Will there be a big surge into UKIP?

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[SunkenCiv]

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[Vanders9]

I dislike most of the mans political opinions, but Galloway is a very good speaker, and he can appeal to the Muslim vote. I think you might see stranger bedfellows before all this is over.

Even though UKIP has no seats and officially little power beyond a few councillors and MEP's, its influence is substantial. It is almost completely because of UKIP that this June vote is even going to take place. Without the rise of UKIP, Cameron would not even have offered a referendum.

If the referendum results in the UK staying in the EU, what then? It might cause a surge of support for UKIP, it might work against us. Leaving the EU is easily what UKIP is best known for and its biggest election plank. I really dont know. Much would depend on the fortunes of the EU in the following years. Certainly if the referendum results in us leaving Cameron is finished. He cannot possibly be the man who went through all this negotiation to keep us in and then be the man who has to go and negotiate us to leave.