Posted on 02/17/2016 10:39:57 PM PST by TraditionalMerica
One of the big reasons I got fed up with the Democrats and left is that Barack Hussein Obama broke with the tradition of previous Presidents, from JFK to Nixon, Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, all from both parties, of honouring the only free-market and free society country in the Middle East, that is Israel. Obama joins Michael Moore, Max Blumenthal, Dhimmi Carter, alongside Fidel Castro, George Galloway, Jeremy Corbyn, and other radical crazies. George HW Bush was an exception to this, tho come to think of it, he was nicer to Shamir than Obama was to Netanyahu, who BTW is more American than Barry will ever be. Unfortunately tho, Bush Sr. pushed Madrid in 1991 and Oslo was mostly negotiated before he left office (1/20/1993). GHW was also better on this issue than Dhimmi Carter, who in reality, almost scuttled Egypt/Israel peace, not facilitated it.
Year after year has yielded results like this:
Given the 4:1 RATIO, I think it can be said: REAL AMERICANS SUPPORT ISRAEL. THOSE WHO DON'T ARE SOCIETY'S FRINGE.
Why? Because unlike the Europeans (http://www.pewglobal.org/2009/01/29/ideology-and-views-toward-the-middle-east-conflict/), who gave the world Fascism AND Communism, America honors hard work and ingenuity. Jews, as an immigrant group to this great land, have been a part since the beginning, from the time of Haym Solomon, who financed the American Revolution at the time of the original Tea Party, to today. Obama wants to claim that Muslims somehow played any role in America's beginning. He's half-right; the Caliphate was among the first major enemies of America, during the Barbary Wars. Like the Irish, Italians, Germans, and unlike Muslim immigrants, the Jews rolled with the punches and got to what was real, to quote David Lee Roth. It wasn't constant victimhood/whining.
Freedom House, an honourable and authoritative NGO, ranks Israel as the only "free" nation in the Middle East, in contrast to "partly free" and "not free." You can go to their site and see for yourself. https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2016/
During the Cold War, Israel fought Communist Allied Egypt, led by Gamel Nasser, a "Hero of the Soviet Union." Back then, Hafez Al-Assad was in bed with the Bolsheviks, which is the root of Putin's love for Assad. They captured their MiG planes and gave them to us. The PLO was Bolshevik backed; here is a pic of Arafat and his communist buddies . While some think maybe our relationship with Arab countries could be better weren't for the Jewish State, in reality, those places were never stable and Israel was America's bargaining chip that got the Arab countries to firm up and follow us instead of the Bolsheviks, who woulda taken over the MidEast were an American ally not there. It functioned for America geographically as Cuba did for the USSR in this part of the world; without the torture chambers of Castro and whatnot. Were not for Israel, the Bolsheviks would've achieved there what they tried to do in Central America and it woulda been much easier without our/Israel's presence than in Central America.
(above: Arafat and his commie friends)
Efraim Karsh's "Islamic Imperialism", a spectacular book, tells of the history of Israel's conflict with the "Palestinians." In reality, it was never a "nationalist" conflict like liberals want you to believe. It is an Islamic conflict, dating back to the concept of fitna; that Muslims only gain land, never lose it. Israel, along with America today, stands firm against RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR. One can find the massive amounts of contribution that Israel gives to America in this study http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/friends-with-benefits-why-the-u.s.-israeli-alliance-is-good-for-america . Israel and America are the last best hope of men on Earth blocking it from going into a thousand years of Islam darkness. The people in Europe/elsewhere who protest Israel actually are protesting America, both figuratively and literally. They see both America and Israel as "hypercapitalist" who "exploit 'indigenous'" people, yadda yadda yadda. Some even liken Palestinians to "the new 'Native Americans'." (they should really be called aboriginal. I'm American, native born, thus, I'm a "Native American." Its a BS analogy too tho; the aboriginals did get the shaft in some ways; the Palestinian Arabs got nothing like it.
OBL, ISIS, and other Radical Islamic Terrorists don't hate America because she honours Israel; they hate America because it dominates the world order instead of Muslimism. Israel is an ally, thus an easy target.
America needs a President who will authoritatively and firmly stand with the Jewish State of Israel and see to it that America forever does so thruout the ages. Anyone who does not is disqualified from leading the free world against evil, be it fascism, communism, or Islamism.
I didn’t know Western Europe was mostly majority for Palestinians.
what does that stem from?
Nice post new member.
I support Israel, and was even asked tonight if I would be willing to go fight for her! I said sure if they would allow 67 year old men who would just get in the way! Besides I did my duty 45 some odd years ago in a place called Vietnam!
Leftist sympathies and anti-semitism.
The PLO were very closely allied with both Russian and Chinese communism.
Enemy of my enemy is my ally type of stuff.
probably a mix of Muslim immigration and traditional European totalitarian leanings (both fascism and communism incorporated anti-Semitism; Marx said the “Jew’s worldly God was money.”)
âAuschwitz meant that six million Jews were killed, and thrown on the waste-heap of Europe, for what they were: money Jews. Finance capital and the banks, the hard core of the system of imperialism and capitalism, had turned the hatred of men against money and exploitation, and against the Jewsâ¦Anti-Semitism is really a hatred of capitalismâ
â Ulrike Meinhof, Red Army Faction
Time for the Jews to stop being Left of Obama and stand up.
I heard that Jewish men grew wealthy way back because Christians couldn’t lend money and collect interest.
If so, good for the Jews.
again, forgive my naivety if i’m completely wrong.
Israel is a socialist state with gov’t run health care, a robust welfare system, and a high progressive income tax
I want that mosque built on top of Solomon’s Temple taken down brick by brick and moved 1600 feet East, and then resurrect Solomon’s Temple as accurate as possible on top of it’s original foundations and then declared it a World Heditage Site.
The Muslim totalitarians have done this all over thr world, tear down a temple or church and then build a mosque on top of the exact location. It is a pdopaganda thing, also they think the villagers will continue to come to that holy spot but now would be entering a mosque - they often us the stone, marble, bricks of the temples/churches they tore down as part of the construction of the mosque. Thousands of Churches, Temples, Mandirs etc. In India were torn down in such a manner in India and a mosque built on top. Who the hell do they think they are? God?
real Americans support Israel, yes. (Most regrettably, there are a few genuine isolationists... I say regrettably for them only because I believe their position, albeit idealistic, is dangerous for USA in the rough and tumble world we live in, or on)...........and far worse yet, there are a handful of Nazis concentrated in the Obama administration plus university campii and major media....so they are exerting a very disproportionate and extremely evil influence on USA right now. Pray for a decent American to be elected this year!!) But yes, most all Americans who are aware of such matters are good people and they do support our natural allies including Jerusalem. Obama most definitely is enemy, not American in this and in countless additional ways... as he works so audaciously to weaken America, our defenses, our economy—jobs...and the morale and morals of our society.
Ongoing battle for that land. Muslims seem to be winning at the moment.
If the Jewish race was persecuted so harshly in the early 40’s as we all seem to believe, then why won’t the ancestors fight?
Can’t wrap my head around it, oh wait.. Is it to wipe out the Christians?
neither believe in Christ
“socialist” as in the only serious non-oilbased stock market in the middle east? “socialist” as in having a market economy which the government doesn’t rule by fiat, which occurs in the Islam nations it borders? “Socialist” as in ruled by the people instead of a dictator (or King, General, “King Salman” is no different than General Secretary Salman in practice).?
"Seem to believe?" 1) 6 million Jews were murdered in Europe; 2) the state of Israel, where countless ancestors of the Holocaust call home, has been fighting hard and extraordinarily skillfully for their survival for almost 70 years.
Why does that demographic of today not know history?
Great post. Thank you. :)
We are. You have no idea.
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