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I'm afraid Apple is going to lose this fight.
1 posted on 02/17/2016 6:13:36 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer
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If Apple is forced to build a backdoor, people will switch to Samsung.

South Korea wins.


2 posted on 02/17/2016 6:17:56 PM PST by Helicondelta
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I don’t think so. I think they will win. They will have far better lawyers. They will cite so much precedent it will be impossible for the govt to rule against itself.

The constitution does not say government has the right to everyone’s private communications.


3 posted on 02/17/2016 6:20:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I thought Tim Cook liked back doors.


5 posted on 02/17/2016 6:20:57 PM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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I'm afraid Apple is going to lose this fight.

Why do you say that? What would prevent Apple from telling the government to back off, or Apple will move all it's operations out of the country? The government would blink. Huge companies that operate world-wide, can relocate anywhere. How many companies and jobs have to leave the U.S.A. before we realize that government is the problem behind loss of jobs?

6 posted on 02/17/2016 6:21:09 PM PST by roadcat
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So, I’ve heard two different stories: 1) the Feds just want some help cracking this particular phone and 2) the Feds want a generic back-door to Apple phones. Which is it?


7 posted on 02/17/2016 6:23:40 PM PST by SuzyQue
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FBi — iLIKE that.


10 posted on 02/17/2016 6:26:26 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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Any thoughts for the county to make it safer?
11 posted on 02/17/2016 6:26:57 PM PST by keving (We get the government we vote forever)
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If conservatives don’t rally around Tim Cook & Apple on this issue, then we’re all going to suffer from it.


12 posted on 02/17/2016 6:27:05 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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Apparently the FBI is asking apple to add software into this apple phone to change the instruction that exists that if 10 password tries occur, everything on the phone will be deleted.

This is such a tough question. I want our liberty, but these terrorists deserve to lose theirs. Their acts have led to their homes, cars, and property being searched. How to do so without compelling something that takes away freedom from innocents?


20 posted on 02/17/2016 6:31:25 PM PST by Yaelle
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Why should Apple have to pay for the government doing a piss poor job of keeping terrorists out of the country?


22 posted on 02/17/2016 6:32:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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Awhile back Arizona tried to set as a house/apt renting condition the proper display of documentation PROVING that one is in the country legally —passport, driver’s license, etc.

The left exploded, “Landlords should NEVER be turned into policemen..!” They were apoplectic.

Why should APPLE be turned into the NSA?

I don’t follow.


25 posted on 02/17/2016 6:34:57 PM PST by gaijin
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There must be a way that a trusted third party could take the device in the presence of appropriate law enforcement, judicial and Apple lawyers, open the phone and then give the critical components back to Apple.


28 posted on 02/17/2016 6:36:48 PM PST by Portcall24
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I heard an idea today that seems a simple solve that protects everybody. This isn’t verbatim, but here’s the gist:

Give the phone to Apple. Let them decode it in an underwater bunker off some balmy island surrounded by American warships. Give the data to the FBI guy waiting on the beach sipping a mai-tai. Apple can keep the phone and decode key, and sledgehammer it or blow it up or whatever. Everybody’s happy.


36 posted on 02/17/2016 6:40:01 PM PST by blueplum
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If you really wanted to, given quite a bit of money and time to back you up, as the gov has, couldn’t the gov acquire a bunch of phones, find a way to safely disassemble the phone in question, use specialized hardware to move the data to another phone, and use brute force password guess?

If the 10th incorrect password causes erasure, that means you could use 9 per device. So, practice getting all data off one phone, so you get that part down. Then you need at most 112 phones to guess the password.

I’m presuming that, since the iPhone is not actually UFO technology, appropriate circuitry could be reverse engineered to accomplish this sort of copy.


40 posted on 02/17/2016 6:45:08 PM PST by fruser1
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Why can’t Apple break this particular phone for the good of the country and help? Seems like a logical compromise.


50 posted on 02/17/2016 6:50:56 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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It wasn’t all that long ago that the outlandish thought of: The opposition between Apple and Spooks is a grand spectacle for the plebs, behind the closed doors the project is already under way.... would not of seemed a plausible scenario.

I can’t as easily dismiss such notions today.


66 posted on 02/17/2016 7:10:41 PM PST by ResearchMonkey (Holding Conservative Country in California.)
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“By resisting encroachment by the courts, Mr. Cook is executing the corporate mission.”

If the Corporate mission was the same as ISIS, you would be correct. No corporate mission includes defying the law. Building a product does not confer any such luxury.


67 posted on 02/17/2016 7:13:31 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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79 posted on 02/17/2016 7:36:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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If only Hillary and her cronies had stored all the country’s secrets on an iPhone. Maybe she wouldn’t be facing hard time after she drops out of the presidential race.


101 posted on 02/17/2016 7:58:26 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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Exactly, what the hell are we paying billions of dollars to degenerate retard cyber sleuths at the NSA and FBI and 20 other useless Federal Agencies if they cant hack a goddamned IPhone 5C?

Cook ought to make a deal, they all resign, and then he will take 2 minutes and give them the answer.


108 posted on 02/17/2016 8:07:15 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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