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[Vanity] Apple vs FBi
self | 2016-02-17 | Self

Posted on 02/17/2016 6:13:36 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer

An Open Memo To Lou Dobbs

As CEO, Tim Cooks obligation is to execute the corporate mission. Briefly stated, a corporation must deliver product to customers and return on investment to shareholders. It is not his job to make the nation secure from geo-political terrorism. Your suggestion that Mr. Cook will be culpable when another attack occurs was a stinking cheap shot. Obama has the job of making us secure and is failing us. Today on the sister network Fox News Channel, Obama was heard calling for improved cyber security. Do you see an irony?

By resisting encroachment by the courts, Mr. Cook is executing the corporate mission. Apples customers dont want their data to be made less secure. Apples investors dont want their research dollars to be wasted. In short courts are demanding that Apple degrade its very excellent product. Leave Apple alone. American citizens want their private data to remain secure.

Ben Franklin: He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.


TOPICS: Government; US: California; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; apple; california; fbi; loudobbs; privacy; sanbernadino; sanbernardino
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Fewer restrictions on arms. Free gun mufflers, legal automatics, legal claymores, etc.


21 posted on 02/17/2016 6:31:53 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer

Why should Apple have to pay for the government doing a piss poor job of keeping terrorists out of the country?


22 posted on 02/17/2016 6:32:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Why can’t Apple just unlock this one phone for the FBI?


23 posted on 02/17/2016 6:32:13 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Paladin2
"Fewer restrictions on arms. Free gun mufflers, legal automatics, legal claymores, etc.

Right on. Right on.

24 posted on 02/17/2016 6:33:47 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (SC - Feb. 13, 2015 .....BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer

Awhile back Arizona tried to set as a house/apt renting condition the proper display of documentation PROVING that one is in the country legally —passport, driver’s license, etc.

The left exploded, “Landlords should NEVER be turned into policemen..!” They were apoplectic.

Why should APPLE be turned into the NSA?

I don’t follow.


25 posted on 02/17/2016 6:34:57 PM PST by gaijin
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To: keving
Any thoughts for the county to make it safer?

Build a wall, kick out the illegals and ban foreign mohammedans from entering the country, except on a case-by-case basis.

26 posted on 02/17/2016 6:35:20 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Definitely. But I do know how you could find out what you said was completely uninformed—search.


27 posted on 02/17/2016 6:36:44 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer

There must be a way that a trusted third party could take the device in the presence of appropriate law enforcement, judicial and Apple lawyers, open the phone and then give the critical components back to Apple.


28 posted on 02/17/2016 6:36:48 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: keving

To quote ret LtCol Ralph Peters: Kill them (terrorists); its the only way.


29 posted on 02/17/2016 6:37:11 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer (Keep Republican primary elections safe from Democrats.)
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To: Helicondelta
If Apple is forced to build a backdoor, people will switch to Samsung.

Why would Google not be required to put a back door in Android? If this precedent gets set, there will be no secure devices available.
30 posted on 02/17/2016 6:37:23 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Why cant Apple just unlock this one phone for the FBI?

Because they've designed the iPhone so that this is not possible. The FBI is asking them to create an entirely new version of the operating system that could be used to crack *any* iPhone.

31 posted on 02/17/2016 6:37:25 PM PST by billakay
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Apple doesn’t have the passcode, the phone has it but it is encrypted. It’s not a fancy passcode—usually only 4 digits. Problem is the phone automatically wipes itself after so many failed attempts to enter the passcode—so brute force won’t work. The government is ordering Apple to write a new IOS that will disable the security feature. It can’t write an IOS for just this one phone—it will be able to break all IPhones’ security.

It really is amazing when you think of it—a 4-digit passcode is unbreakable by our government’s best and brightest. (I keep thinking of SpaceBalls where the secret code is 1234, which is the same as the President’s suitcase. I wonder I f they tried 1234 just to see?)


32 posted on 02/17/2016 6:37:33 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: eaglegso

I guess my question is if there is a court order for just this one phone what’s the problem with somebody from Apple opening it up? I mean the phone calls and text messages have already been obtained from the carrier so I guess the FBI is trying to get the contact list off the phone. What else would there be?


33 posted on 02/17/2016 6:38:22 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Ken H

I’d be very surprised if Apple successfully defies the All Writs Act written and passed by the Founders of this nation.
But Obama has appointed many Justices and Apple has a lot of money.


34 posted on 02/17/2016 6:38:51 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Scrambler Bob; hanamizu

That’s sort of what I thought.


35 posted on 02/17/2016 6:39:22 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer

I heard an idea today that seems a simple solve that protects everybody. This isn’t verbatim, but here’s the gist:

Give the phone to Apple. Let them decode it in an underwater bunker off some balmy island surrounded by American warships. Give the data to the FBI guy waiting on the beach sipping a mai-tai. Apple can keep the phone and decode key, and sledgehammer it or blow it up or whatever. Everybody’s happy.


36 posted on 02/17/2016 6:40:01 PM PST by blueplum
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To: minnesota_bound

Let the government do what they did in wwii and tell all us companies it’s ilegal to sell to muslims.

Dont put the onus on a company that sells most of its stuff to regular americans.

Besides the point is moot. They can get all this info about contacts and numbers from the phone company or nsa. And you know it and so do I.


37 posted on 02/17/2016 6:40:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: hanamizu

OK. Thanx. I get it. Yeh


38 posted on 02/17/2016 6:41:00 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: hanamizu

“Cracking this one phone will produce a tool that can crack all iPhones. “

NO.


39 posted on 02/17/2016 6:43:31 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer

If you really wanted to, given quite a bit of money and time to back you up, as the gov has, couldn’t the gov acquire a bunch of phones, find a way to safely disassemble the phone in question, use specialized hardware to move the data to another phone, and use brute force password guess?

If the 10th incorrect password causes erasure, that means you could use 9 per device. So, practice getting all data off one phone, so you get that part down. Then you need at most 112 phones to guess the password.

I’m presuming that, since the iPhone is not actually UFO technology, appropriate circuitry could be reverse engineered to accomplish this sort of copy.


40 posted on 02/17/2016 6:45:08 PM PST by fruser1
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