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Detectives question lack of autopsy in Scalia death
New York Post ^ | 02/15/16 | Jamie Schram and Bob Fredericks

Posted on 02/16/2016 5:53:44 AM PST by Enlightened1

Veteran homicide investigators in New York and Washington, DC, on Monday questioned the way local and federal authorities in Texas handled the death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

"It's not unreasonable to ask for an autopsy in this case, particularly knowing who he is," retired Brooklyn homicide Detective Patricia Tufo told The Post.

"He's not at home. There are no witnesses to his death, and there was no reported explanation for why a pillow is over his head," Tufo said. "So I think under the circumstances it's not unreasonable to request an autopsy. Despite the fact that he has pre-existing ailments and the fact that he's almost 80 years old, you want to be sure that it's not something other than natural causes."

Bill Ritchie, a retired deputy chief and former head of criminal investigations for the DC police, said he was dumbstruck when he learned that no autopsy would be performed.

"I took a look at the report and I almost fell out of my chair," Ritchie told The Post from his home in Maryland.

"I used to be an instructor in the homicide school. Every death investigation you are handling, you consider it a homicide until the investigation proves otherwise," Ritchie said.

"How do you know that person wasn't smothered? How do you know it's not a homicide until you conduct an investigation? You have to do your job. Once you go through that process, you can conclude that this is a naturally occurring death."

Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara said she declared Scalia dead via telephone based on what cops and marshals at the scene told her -- that there were no signs of foul play.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antoninscalia; autopsy; bhoscotus; death; question; scalia; scaliaautopsy; scotus; texas; tx
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To: Another Post-American

Yes, I agree. My wife thought the same thing. Supposedly you have a criminal who is smart enough to sneak in and out undetected, and then fails to put a pillow back into place?

I say even IF there was a pillow over the face, do people who have heart attacks always lay there peacefully while it is happening?

Either way, I think an autopsy should be done, just to be sure, but I don’t think anything nefarious happened here.


121 posted on 02/16/2016 9:18:51 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Enlightened1
Why did family waive the autopsy?

Why did his son cancelled accompaning him at last minute?

For the person of this importance dying alone in these circumstances, the autopsy should be automatic and mandetory

122 posted on 02/16/2016 9:20:24 AM PST by cssGA30005
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To: butterdezillion
My first thought was a lethal dose of Potassium. From the Australian Prescriber (magazine) Feb. 2005 issue: "The risks associated with intravenous potassium chloride are well known. If it is injected too rapidly or in too high a dose, it may cause cardiac arrest within minutes."

My second thought was why didn't they check his eyes for petechiae (tiny red dots of blood on his eyeballs indicating increased pressure). Alone, petechiae does not prove or disprove, but it should send up red flags.

123 posted on 02/16/2016 9:21:35 AM PST by TennesseeGirl (Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. - Edmund Burke 1790)
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To: Enlightened1

What did the President know and when did he know it?


124 posted on 02/16/2016 9:22:34 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Enlightened1

Government killers have become so good, would what they did even show up in an autopsy?


125 posted on 02/16/2016 9:25:18 AM PST by Old Yeller (Obama is winning the war on terror when you realize he is on the side of the enemy.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Glad to know I am not the only one... it’s been hard to deal with the infighting on the threads lately, let alone playground bullying...Have a good one!


126 posted on 02/16/2016 9:32:13 AM PST by gibsosa
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To: houeto

“That stupid crap has always driven me crazy.”

DITTO


127 posted on 02/16/2016 9:35:27 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Rusty0604

Mississippi isn’t exactly a metropolis. I’ve had pts in very remote areas, you still have to drive there. And every county has a coroner, not to mention you simply take his body to the ME and then they can do the autopsy.


128 posted on 02/16/2016 9:49:39 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: gibsosa

Thanks. You, too.


129 posted on 02/16/2016 9:50:02 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are. Go Ted.)
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To: Blennos

“Judge Cinderela Guevara”

I would be willing to wager I do not have to guess or looks up what her political affiliation is.


130 posted on 02/16/2016 9:57:06 AM PST by mrsixpack36
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To: Enlightened1

I wonder if the family refused the autopsy because he had too much alcohol the night before at dinner. Maybe a finding like that would have been embarrassing? Just a wild guess with nothing to back it up.


131 posted on 02/16/2016 9:59:13 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: Lil Flower

I think the closest coroner and ME is in Odessa, Ector County. About 200 miles away.


132 posted on 02/16/2016 10:08:24 AM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: Enlightened1
Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara said she declared Scalia dead via telephone based on what cops and marshals at the scene told her

The troll on the far right is the "Judge" who phoned it in.

Feel better now? No? Me either.

133 posted on 02/16/2016 10:12:40 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: House Atreides
Perhaps, on the surface, the pillow on the head MAY be silly. If you have some time google (or duck-duck-go) the owner of the resort who paid for all the guests' expenses and invited Scalia. He apparently has some sort of strange obsessive-compulsive need for fastidiousness and arranging things into a "proper" and pleasing order.

I have lived with someone who is like that for the past few decades. ; ) It is good since by comparison I am a pig. But at times my wife can go overboard. I am sure that if I ever drove her over the edge... nothing would be out of place in the room they found me in.

As smart as the good justice was suppose to be... you would think that he would be a little more careful about accepting non-solicited free offers from Democrat insiders. One would think that his suspicion might have been heightened after it was suggested that his security detail stay somewhere miles away. And that is one of the known weaknesses with us older folks, no matter how well we are doing financially, many of us still cannot resist a free offer.

134 posted on 02/16/2016 10:24:58 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Lil Flower
It is ridiculous. Even in Mississippi, as a hospice nurse, myself or a doc has to pronounce death, and you don't phone it in.

After working as a firefighter for 25 years... I went to thousands of dead people. And as you say the way this was handled is unheard of. The people here who are saying he is dead, nothing to see, lets just move on... they do not have a clue. This is not the way it is done anywhere in the country that I know of. It is nothing short of OUTRAGEOUS!

135 posted on 02/16/2016 10:33:00 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Excellent post.


136 posted on 02/16/2016 10:39:44 AM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: Enlightened1

If I was a family member I’d want to know the cause of death if only as a caution flag for my own families health care. There are different kinds of heart attacks, arrhythmias, embolisms that cause sudden death. To not have an autopsy is absurd allegedly because he was 79 and had known health problems. It is even more absurd that the authorities didn’t proceed on their own due to his position and circumstances.


137 posted on 02/16/2016 10:47:37 AM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: Enlightened1
Where I live you can be a nobody, stab yourself in the chest while falling down a flight of stairs and no matter how many witnesses there's going to be an autopsy. And a doctor has to pronounce you officially dead. No one is driven straight to the funeral home.

I keep hearing how he was about to write a few decisions for the court and may have been the deciding vote in others and they will now all be void. You've got to ask, who profits from his demise? One of the biggies was on executive power...And I read one report that said his doctor said he wasn't feeling well. Then why let him leave DC and head to a spa leaving his security team at home?

I would say he was as important or more so to the country then even the President. If some one walked into Obama’s rental in Hawaii and he was dead, do you think they'd just call it in?

138 posted on 02/16/2016 10:49:16 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

No we know for a fact that no profesional physically examined the body.

That alone should set off a huge red flag to any normal objective person. Even life time detectives in this artilcle agree with that.

You can spin and dance all you want about this but this is NOT normal no matter how bad you wish it would just go away. It will not.


139 posted on 02/16/2016 11:00:00 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: SkyPilot

LOL!

Thanks and I feel worse now. Oh she looks as innocent as a little baby deer.... NOT!


140 posted on 02/16/2016 11:02:42 AM PST by Enlightened1
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