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Trump threatens legal action against Cruz, third-party run
Legal Insurrection ^ | February 15, 2016 at 6:00pm | Kemberlee Kaye

Posted on 02/15/2016 8:18:43 PM PST by SoConPubbie

Eligibility

Trump’s threats to legally challenge Cruz’s eligibility for office are, “not defending a constitutional principle, just emotionally lashing out,” as Professor Jacobson has puts it.

Monday, Trump suggested Republicans ought to be thankful he’s willing to take on Cruz’s eligibility. Why? Because Democrats will do so if Cruz is the Republican nominee. Trump also referenced two pending cases on the matter, both filed by other parties.

But is Trump pursuing the Cruz/birthright issue because Cruz keeps running attack ads or because he’s doing everyone a favor? Trump himself doesn’t seem to know. And what about Marco Rubio? Will Trump go birther on Rubio once if he becomes a competitive contender?

The perpetual birther, Trump caused a stink around the 2012 election when he repeatedly demanded to see President Obama’s birth certificate.

For Professor Jacobson’s full breakdown on the eligibility issue, see here.

Pledge, what pledge?

Trump said the Republican Party was “in default” of an agreement and then whined on about being treated unfairly.

The Hill reports:

“When somebody’s in default, that means the other side can do what they have to do,” he said. “The RNC is in default.”
Trump signed a pledge last year to run as a Republican and not as an independent. He first raised the posibility of a third-party run in an exclusive interview with The Hill last summer.

“I signed a pledge but it’s a double-edge pledge, and as far as I’m concerned they’re in default of the pledge,” he said at a campaign event outside of Charleston, S.C., The Guardian reported.

During a later press conference, Trump said he was disappointed with the RNC because it stacks the room at debates “with special interests and donors.”

“The RNC gave all the tickets to special interests that represented Cruz and Rubio. They had all the tickets,” he said. “They walked on the stage and the place went crazy.”

He said he doesn’t have donors or special interests.

“I think the RNC did a very poor job,” he said. “We’ve warned them…and they don’t listen.”

The RNC has “total control” over Trump’s competitors, he added.

“The bottom line is the RNC is controlled by the establishment and the RNC is controlled by the special interests and the donors and that’s too bad,” he said.

Threats aplenty and approximately zero action. At least we know what a (God help us) Trump presidency would look like.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016issues; cruz; lawsuit; naturalborn; nbc; rubio; tedcruz; trump
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To: American in Israel

Wow, There’s two of us. I won’t vote for Trump either. My husband despises him also.


101 posted on 02/16/2016 3:03:01 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Poison Pill

Cruz can go to a court and get a declaratory judgement that he is indeed able to run. Of course, he risks being told he is ineligible if he does so.

Trump’s strategy in this is brilliant, IMO.


102 posted on 02/16/2016 4:17:23 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Like the press Trump is dealing with now isn’t “truly adversarial now? Please...


103 posted on 02/16/2016 4:18:39 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: annieokie

Morning ‘Miss’ annie......

Seems to be acquainted with the name.

Take care.........pilgrim


104 posted on 02/16/2016 5:08:42 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: bigbob

Moring ‘Sir’ bigbob,

“Ain’t worried about it” just get on or get off.

Seems he uses the ‘psy-ops.........BSing’ a lot. I really think it would be effective re: Congress, National Affairs and World affairs.

Take care.........pilgrim


105 posted on 02/16/2016 5:12:51 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: EinNYC

LOL!!

Love’em!!!

Nice color is that your favorite? Have a Lady friend that really likes that color. I really do not have any thing to go with them. Could you help!

Appreciate the generous offer!!

Take care.........pilgrim


106 posted on 02/16/2016 5:18:42 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: TheStickman
Cruz can go to a court and get a declaratory judgement

Why should he?

107 posted on 02/16/2016 5:56:03 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

To keep the RATs from screwing him & the country via lawsuits if he is the nominee.


108 posted on 02/16/2016 8:22:46 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman
To keep the RATs from screwing him...

How very thoughtful of you to be concerned about your man's opponent.

109 posted on 02/16/2016 8:34:55 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: pilgrim

And a good morning to you too Pilgrim. Every time I see your name Pilgrim,,,,,I think of John Wayne.


110 posted on 02/16/2016 8:38:40 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie
Good Morning 'Miss' annieokie,

LOL, no it comes from the song you 'young whippersnappers probably never heard, and it's author was 'okieborn',

Information here "I Know Somebody's Listening"

Some years back, my Lady and I were often traveling and the CB was a great way to communicate with others. Needing a 'handle' this song came to mind.

Part of the song goes, "Tho a pilgrim, a stranger, a beggar I be, As here I go traveling on" and remembering this I 'borrowed' the pilgrim in lieu of the other two. Just sounded better. LOL!

Still like to listen to it.

"The ChuckWagon's version"

In case you 'youngens' want to hear it. LOL!

Take care.........pilgrim
111 posted on 02/16/2016 9:37:04 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim
That is a beautiful song, never heard it before. It sure isn't going to be any of Drumpf's campaign songs for sure. :)
112 posted on 02/16/2016 9:56:14 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Yep, ‘figgered you wus one of them youngens’!!!

LOL!!

Listened a couple of times since posting. :)


113 posted on 02/16/2016 10:07:52 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: fiftymegaton

His position on amnesty, for one. Add on there: Ben Carson, and many others.


114 posted on 02/16/2016 11:15:05 AM PST by TraditionalMerica
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To: Poison Pill
If Cruz is the nominee, he gets my vote. If he is the nominee I don't want the RATs to be able to use the "birther issue" against him. Btw, consider growing up a bit, k? Now have a nice day whether you want to or not :) Go Trump!
115 posted on 02/16/2016 11:19:07 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman
If Cruz is the nominee, he gets my vote.

Then you must think he is eligible

116 posted on 02/16/2016 11:28:39 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

I never said he wasn’t eligible. I honestly don’t know if he is, especially since he had dual citizenship till just a year & a half or so ago. He wasn’t born on a military base like McLame was.

I DO know that if the RATs can use the issue to screw Hillary into office they will. If you can completely take that off the table it seems worth doing to me .


117 posted on 02/16/2016 11:54:25 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman

If you are lawyer that practices in this system then I will defer to you on this point, as I am not. As I understand, the courts don’t hand out this kind of opions on request, they hear suits brought by plaintiffs. Mr. Trump could file one as he has threatened. He certainly has standing.


118 posted on 02/16/2016 12:34:46 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: SoConPubbie
I held my nose and voted for Dole to keep Clinton from winning a second term; I held my nose (and even ran a local GOP election office, after my choice, Duncan Hunter, the real Vietnam hero, failed to win the Primary) to keep Obama from getting elected to his first term; I held my nose and made calls Romney got the nomination so Obama didn't get his second term.

Everyone here at FR chastised me for "selling out" or even worse names were flung at me, for going along with the GOP program, for not "sitting this one out" and not "standing up for principle!

This time, that's the advice I'm following.

If my guy, Cruz doesn't win the primary, NOT only will I not "hold my nose and vote" for whom the punditry tell me the winner will be, I also will NOT work to get him elected, I WILL work to defeat him!

The guy's scum and a charlatan who will become another "narcissist-in-chief bully" and I can't bear the thought that I held my nose (for the good of the party) and voted for someone so harmful to American liberty and exceptionalism!

No matter what he says, he is only out for one person - himself and one never knows who he'll be naming to the Supreme Court or selling us out to tomorrow for one of his "great deals!"

119 posted on 02/16/2016 1:03:12 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: TraditionalMerica

I don’t think Cruz has lied about amnesty. I’ve listened to Rubio make the claim, and I’ve also heard Jeff Sessions refute Rubio’s claim point blank. Also Cruz voted with Sessions against the bill. Rubio voted for it. That’s clear enough for me.

Now Trump’s position on amnesty? I have no idea what he wants to do considering he said this two and a half years ago: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373145053482319872

And this just 7 months ago which was after he announced his run for President: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vs2BxqhQ8Q

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if under a Trump presidency part of his ‘deal’ to pass immigration reform was to negotiate with Schumer and the Dems on a pathway to citizenship. Especially when Trump says this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wdlyykIs3I

As for the Carson/Iowa ‘lie’, I read the multiple CNN tweets, and I thought it sounded like he could be dropping out too.

I also read the tweets from Steve King, who Sarah Palin went out of her way to bash, and his tweets were so benign in their characterization of the Carson CNN story that, IMO, it’s laughable to call him somehow ‘underhanded’ and ‘deceitful’.

I like Carson, he seems like a decent guy, but up til this point he’s run one of the most incompetent campaigns I’ve seen.

How is it that Carson himself gets no blame when his own people apparently released an ambiguous statement about the immediate future of his campaign DURING the voting in Iowa? The news tweets didn’t sound that much different than Christie’s the day before Christie dropped out. I for one thought after reading the CNN tweets that it was entirely reasonable to think Carson would be dropping out, likely even.

Another thing, Iowa was a caucus, if people showed up to the caucus sites chances are they were the more politically savvy amongst the populace. I can almost guarantee that most of the people at their caucus sites had their own phones with them. After the CNN Carson story was reported, anyone who was following the campaign probably immediately saw the news anyway. To call Cruz himself a liar because his people reiterated what seemed to be obvious is ridiculous, IMO.

The Cruz press release that I saw about it didn’t even state that Carson was dropping out with certainty. It merely said something like, ‘the press is reporting Carson is taking time off after Iowa’, and judging by the multiple press reports it DID look like that was the case. Steve King’s tweets were even more benign than that. He stated merely, ‘it looks like Carson is out’ which is what it DID look like. Sarah Palin really went off the rails insulting King over this, IMO.


120 posted on 02/17/2016 2:52:25 AM PST by fiftymegaton
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