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To: fiftymegaton

His position on amnesty, for one. Add on there: Ben Carson, and many others.


114 posted on 02/16/2016 11:15:05 AM PST by TraditionalMerica
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To: TraditionalMerica

I don’t think Cruz has lied about amnesty. I’ve listened to Rubio make the claim, and I’ve also heard Jeff Sessions refute Rubio’s claim point blank. Also Cruz voted with Sessions against the bill. Rubio voted for it. That’s clear enough for me.

Now Trump’s position on amnesty? I have no idea what he wants to do considering he said this two and a half years ago: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373145053482319872

And this just 7 months ago which was after he announced his run for President: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vs2BxqhQ8Q

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if under a Trump presidency part of his ‘deal’ to pass immigration reform was to negotiate with Schumer and the Dems on a pathway to citizenship. Especially when Trump says this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wdlyykIs3I

As for the Carson/Iowa ‘lie’, I read the multiple CNN tweets, and I thought it sounded like he could be dropping out too.

I also read the tweets from Steve King, who Sarah Palin went out of her way to bash, and his tweets were so benign in their characterization of the Carson CNN story that, IMO, it’s laughable to call him somehow ‘underhanded’ and ‘deceitful’.

I like Carson, he seems like a decent guy, but up til this point he’s run one of the most incompetent campaigns I’ve seen.

How is it that Carson himself gets no blame when his own people apparently released an ambiguous statement about the immediate future of his campaign DURING the voting in Iowa? The news tweets didn’t sound that much different than Christie’s the day before Christie dropped out. I for one thought after reading the CNN tweets that it was entirely reasonable to think Carson would be dropping out, likely even.

Another thing, Iowa was a caucus, if people showed up to the caucus sites chances are they were the more politically savvy amongst the populace. I can almost guarantee that most of the people at their caucus sites had their own phones with them. After the CNN Carson story was reported, anyone who was following the campaign probably immediately saw the news anyway. To call Cruz himself a liar because his people reiterated what seemed to be obvious is ridiculous, IMO.

The Cruz press release that I saw about it didn’t even state that Carson was dropping out with certainty. It merely said something like, ‘the press is reporting Carson is taking time off after Iowa’, and judging by the multiple press reports it DID look like that was the case. Steve King’s tweets were even more benign than that. He stated merely, ‘it looks like Carson is out’ which is what it DID look like. Sarah Palin really went off the rails insulting King over this, IMO.


120 posted on 02/17/2016 2:52:25 AM PST by fiftymegaton
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