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When did Freepers turn so nasty? (vanity)
vanity | 2/12/2016 | Optimist

Posted on 02/12/2016 10:04:27 PM PST by Optimist

Over the past several months, Free Republic has begun to show an ugly side of its members. Although admittedly comprised of many strong-willed, opinion-charged individuals presenting thoughtful, conservative insights into the topics of the day, this forum has begun to show a seamier side as the Trump-Cruz-Rubio-Carson 2016 Primary heated up. You all know what I mean. Many of you have either been at the giving or receiving end of EMOTIONALLY-charged attacks against various candidates or even individuals as their supporters.

Herewith a few thoughts I would like to share:

  1. Passion for a candidate and buying into the campaign is exciting and important for exposing others to knowledge and understanding more about "your" candidate.
  2. Most of us WILL NOT be able to have a voting impact on which individual becomes the candidate, so why such vitriol? A little perspective is really needed. What are you going to do if by mid-March (when only 20% of the country has had any type of primary vote) and your candidate has fallen off the slate? Face it ANY of these candidates are better than any Democrat or potential Independent opposition, and will have a better chance of being elected than nay 3rd/4th/obscure party candidate.
  3. When did we turn into the Ron Paul group? Sorry, I don't mean to offend, but you know what I mean: personality driven, my guy can do/say no wrong, I'm going to get in your face if you don't see things my way, and .... well, you hopefully see the similarity.
  4. None of the candidates is 100% perfect, but they all have characteristics that are admirable:
  5. Yes there are negatives for all of them, but this is THE BEST crop of candidates we have ever had to choose from, unlike past elections when it seemed inevitable that the hand-picked, it's-his-turn, establishment candidate was chosen for us. And, besides, go back and re-read number 2.
  6. And (finally?) a word about pundits: (Glenn Beck, Rush, Fox News, et. al.):

Well, this is what happens when one (Ok, I) become frustrated with the ad-hominem attacks against so many good people both on this site, and otherwise supportive of conservatism and the rise of a conservative Republican Party. We are all decent, America-loving conservatives who are driven to strive for what is best for returning this country to its pride.

Please Freepers, make your best case, and trust that whoever eventually runs against the Demobeast will, with God's light, be the right person for the job.

Let the flame-war begin, I have donned my suit! And God bless.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016gopprimary; cruz; cruzcontrol; cruzorlose; election; faq; trump; vanity
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To: HLPhat

"Commerce between master and slave is despotism"

right there a great description of socialism by Jefferson

Jefferson - "The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other. Our children see this, and learn to imitate it. . . ." - Notes on the State of Virginia

261 posted on 02/13/2016 10:16:56 AM PST by Optimist
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To: Optimist

>>right there a great description of socialism by Jefferson

Absolutely. More than socialism - it refers to the historically observed natural tendency of collective government to impose itself upon the Individual. Thus the framework of government having a constituted purpose “TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS” - and protect the inalienable rights of the individual.

But Jefferson wasn’t perfect - he also said “I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN”

What was that code, and why was that idea flawed?


262 posted on 02/13/2016 10:23:17 AM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: HLPhat

Well put.
Freedom is from God; not man.
The Constitution was instituted with that as its anchor.

The Constitution with its limits on government; is the only thing that will keep us free.
Free from both parties. True conservatism has the Constitution as its anchor.
There are a few Republicans who are conservative; no Democrats that I am aware of.


263 posted on 02/13/2016 10:32:00 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Optimist

Freepers have always been nasty


264 posted on 02/13/2016 10:33:45 AM PST by wardaddy (Boy the nasties are sure out in force here.....I hope someone is saving this...Trump Cruz that order)
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To: bert

Yeah, and we have had a republican congress for six years. They are all at the trough, and f—King useless.

If you think it will change in the next six, you are wrong. Sadly wrong.


265 posted on 02/13/2016 10:35:17 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Optimist
When did Freepers turn so nasty?

Well, I've been here since 1998, and I'd say it gets this way every election cycle. You should have seen it when Romney was running.

266 posted on 02/13/2016 10:35:18 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Kenton

Heck I remember the vitriol that was thrown at W during the primaries in 2000.


267 posted on 02/13/2016 10:36:48 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: StAnDeliver

I hate when my auto correct puts in “real” words and I am not prompted. But you picked it up and ran for a touchdown! Thanks!


268 posted on 02/13/2016 10:36:56 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: HereInTheHeartland

>>Freedom is from God; not man.
>>The Constitution was instituted with that as its anchor.

God and His self-evident Natural Law.

Romans 1:25+ describes what happens when a culture becomes the object of its own worship - defying God and Nature.

Last Sunday’s “cultural” display is symptomatic of the same condition.


269 posted on 02/13/2016 10:39:48 AM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: wardaddy
Freepers have always been nasty

It's proof of our depravity, the concession of which is the foundation of conservationism. But Trump thinks everyone is wonderful, special and amazing once they are out of his unapologetic way.


270 posted on 02/13/2016 10:39:55 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: momincombatboots

Please alert me when you’re ready for a list of new sign ons who are all in for Cruz.

It seems to me, some people take things far too personal, on both sides. Neither is above rolling around in the gutter. And that is the truth. I’ll gladly provide links to my assertion, however, if you are being honest with yourself you know it to be true.

I personally find some of what is posted to be so over the top, it just becomes white noise. I am more interested in what is happening right here in my neighborhood, and not what random people say on an forum.


271 posted on 02/13/2016 10:42:15 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Kenton

In 2000 FR was “Keyes Central”, all other non-Keyes candidates were bashed like crazy.

IOW, there’s nothing new under the Sun (and FR).


272 posted on 02/13/2016 10:42:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Gene Eric

A common medical disorder in which a cantankerous, old, senior citizen will not stop swearing. Usually directed toward ungrateful "youngsters" meaning anyone from 1 to 55 years of age.

Yer damn right. I like nothing better that sitting on my front porch in my bathrobe, shaking my fist and swearing at those damn high school kids when drive too fast past my house.

273 posted on 02/13/2016 10:42:30 AM PST by Kenton
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To: HLPhat; Optimist

>>But Jefferson wasn’t perfect - he also said
>> “I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN”
>>
>>What was that code, and why was that idea flawed?

Hint:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=alexis+de+tocqueville+french+revolution

“TYRANNY OF THE ______________”?


274 posted on 02/13/2016 10:44:19 AM PST by HLPhat (Preventing Global Cooling one tank full at a time!)
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To: JPX2011

Just wait young whippersnapper. You will remember my words the first time you are offered an over age 55 discount at a store. Mark my words the time is coming and will happen.


275 posted on 02/13/2016 10:51:55 AM PST by Rebelbase (Best election ever. Sick of it already, but best election ever.)
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To: Optimist

Supporting your candidate is great
Tearing down another candidate to advance your candidate isn’t great.
Attacking other posters because they don’t support your candidate is what liberals do and should be avoided at all costs.


276 posted on 02/13/2016 10:59:54 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (We are in the time where telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Vermont Lt
They are all at the trough, and f--King useless.

The republicans proved they were worthless pigs just like the democrat fascists when they helped shove Newt out the door over false accusations and couldn't wait to be shed of Tom Delay over the same sort of thing. They were more than happy to have the best seats at the pig trough and let the Clinton crowd do whatever they liked.

Say what you like about Newt and Delay, they kept their promises to the voters, something no republican has done since.

The past six years are just more of the pigs rooting around for their favorite tidbits in the flood of Federal graft and corruption. For God's sake, the Pentagon can't account for several trillion dollars they've spent and that just gets shrugged off as a minor accounting error.

No chance most of that money was just payoffs to the right donors with a portion kicked back to the Congress critter they backed, right ?

Absolutely power corrupts absolutely, and since Congress ignored Clinton funding Kosovo by moving money around within the budget after getting away with Waco the President has for all intents and purposes wielded absolute power.

Just like the Senate in Rome at the time of Augustus Caesar, as long as they get a nice fat cut and deference Republicans are every bit as happy with the Imperial President as the Democrat Fascists are.

The only real difference is that at some point the Democrat Fascists will actually murder the majority of their opponents to install a "President" appointed by the Senate rather than the voters while the Republicans will always be too timid to do so.

277 posted on 02/13/2016 11:06:36 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Optimist
Good grief! You were around in the 98-99 period of conservative vs. libertarian wars...

Nothing I've seen here lately even comes close to those good times...

Take a deep breath and relax...

278 posted on 02/13/2016 11:11:02 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Elsie

I’m not exactly sure how you mean that reply.
It’s just that I was hurt that someone called me such a profane name (just about the worst you can think of- containing the ‘f’ word) and it wasn’t deleted- and there’s no telling how many days this profanity had been up for all on this site to read. I had to ASK them to remove it.

It seems almost impossible to me that one of the Mods didn’t see it and delete.
This kind of obscenity is forbidden here, and I have been a loyal, contributing member for eight years.
I have never called any of my fellow Freepers profane names..nor would I


279 posted on 02/13/2016 11:18:35 AM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type))
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To: Optimist

Extremely well-written post.


280 posted on 02/13/2016 12:17:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (A Naive American Electorate, Seduced Again By Slick Talk/Big Promises: Carter, Clinton, Obama, Trump)
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