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Supreme Court likely to hear new “assault weapons” ban case(4th district ruling)
hotair.com ^ | 2/6/2016 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 02/06/2016 7:32:01 AM PST by rktman

While it's not a done deal yet, there's a good chance that we may finally be receiving a final decision from the Supreme Court on the question of so called "assault weapons" bans. Back in December, gun rights activists were largely disappointed when SCOTUS decided they would not hear an appeal to Illinois' assault weapons ban, allowing a lower court ruling in favor of the law to stand. At the time, I speculated that they were waiting for more lower courts to weigh in on similar challenges around the country to see if there was some sort of consensus or if the states were divided and in need of clarification from above.

This week that question may have been answered. The 4th Circuit, hearing a Maryland case, went the other way, overturning a ban on AR-15 style rifles and expanded capacity magazines.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; scotus
Kinda what I was thinkin' the other day when the post about the 4th district court ruling popped up. But, with the current supremes, you just never know. And if they decide to consider it, it won't be next week. They may wait for the lyin' king to be appointed(annointed?) to the scotus by hildebeast or uncle bernie. YIKES!
1 posted on 02/06/2016 7:32:02 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

All you people out there had your fair warning back in 1994 with the Republican Approved Assault Weapons ban. That last 10 years and let lapse during Bush’s term. If you didn’t get your butt out there and get some, then shame on you. Shame on you because there is STILL time for most of us.

They can’t take what they can’t find.


2 posted on 02/06/2016 7:34:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: rktman

First, they may appeal the 4th circuit ruling to an en banc panel of the 4th Circuit.

If that does not happen, the district court has to rule on the ban.

When that happens, the district court ruling will likley be appealed to the 4th Circuit.

Then there would be an appeal to the Supreme Court.

Very likely a two year process.


3 posted on 02/06/2016 7:38:50 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gaffer
Micro manufacturing of quality firearms is very very close if not already here.

The technology available to the common person is quite amazing. The micro manufacturing revolution has started. Is your garage ready. Is slave labor China ready (no they aren't).

Its' too late gun grabbers - you are way too late. We can make em faster than you can take em.

Now to defeat PC - Lets rebuild America Freepers!

4 posted on 02/06/2016 7:49:04 AM PST by datricker (Like America vote Trump - No Nasty Voter Shaming Canadians)
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To: rktman
expanded capacity magazines.

What the bloody hell is an "expanded capacity" magazine?

STANAG magazines (standard equipment for AR15 and similar rifles) hold 30 rounds. That's a standard capacity magazine.

Standard capacity magazines for AK47 and similar rifles hold 40 rounds.

Standard capacity magazines for 9mm pistols generally hold 15 +/- 2 rounds.

5 posted on 02/06/2016 8:00:11 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Gaffer

We have a winner !! Snoot has been paying attention even before that !

Regards & ALL Liberals, progressives,democRATS AND MODERATES...... GET OFF MY LAWN !!

Snoot ;o)


6 posted on 02/06/2016 8:01:14 AM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: rktman

SCOTUS is likely to uphold the ban. Scalia planted the seeds, in the Heller decision.


7 posted on 02/06/2016 8:01:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: rktman

Whenever SCOTUS might hear this, it will come down to magazine issues. Honest people should not ban guns based on scary looks alone, which in this case would be the same as a semi-auto ban.


8 posted on 02/06/2016 8:03:15 AM PST by umgud
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To: NorthMountain

Hundred round rotary mags? “They” never seem to run out of “questionable” misnomers do “they”?


9 posted on 02/06/2016 8:05:23 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: umgud

Gotta love the anti’s statment “...does the court want to be in the business of handing out AR-15s like so much Halloween candy?” I wasn’t aware that the courts dispensed ARs. Who knew? LOL!


10 posted on 02/06/2016 8:13:35 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Gaffer
They can't take what they can't find.

But they can make the penalties so great that these items become very, very rare. This would completely defeat the anti-tyranny motivations behind the 2A. And, they make simple possession of any of the items they ban a felony, meaning a lifetime firearms ban for having any of these.

Coming soon is a ban own having the software to manufacture a gun. When the government has overwhelming firepower against your much lesser weapon, the cards are stacked against you.

11 posted on 02/06/2016 10:47:11 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: datricker

My God! Somebody gets it. Micro manufacturing is within a few years of renedering the entire question moot.

How do you ban ‘em when there is someone on every block who can make them in their garage from a metal block?
Answer: with extreme difficulty.


12 posted on 02/06/2016 11:15:09 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Beware the disruptors! Are they REALLY supporting a candidate, or are they gop-e or rat operatives?)
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To: Cboldt

Yeah, ain’t you just a ray of sunshine.

It’s a crap shoot at best.


13 posted on 02/06/2016 11:20:07 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Cboldt

The interesting part will be whether they adopt 2 words in this decision: strict scrutiny. If that becomes the standard, gun control for the most part will be toast.

Ultimately though I think all of this is academic within a few years. With micro manufacturing becoming within reach of the middle and working class, essentially anyone will be able to build their weaponry of choice. Add to that the increasing rates of ownership and its a pretty fair bet that gun control is going to be on the wane. Its like trying to have prohibition when everyone has a home brewery and grows their own barley and hops.


14 posted on 02/06/2016 11:21:46 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Beware the disruptors! Are they REALLY supporting a candidate, or are they gop-e or rat operatives?)
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To: Gaffer

“They can’t take what they can’t find.”

Probably a good idea to buy 80% lowers!


15 posted on 02/06/2016 11:30:34 AM PST by vette6387
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To: NorthMountain
What the bloody hell is an "expanded capacity" magazine?

Thermold makes one for the Canadian market. 30 rounds in the standard position, when extended it holds 45. Rock River Arms handles them for dealer distribution, or used to.

For REAL imagination, guess what the big *secret feature* was of the Thermold stripper clips/chargers that Thermold made for the Canadian military.

16 posted on 02/08/2016 8:14:13 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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guess what the big *secret feature*

15 round clip (vs the standard 10)?

17 posted on 02/08/2016 8:18:23 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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guess what the big *secret feature*
15 round clip (vs the standard 10)?

Oh no, this is CANADIANS [er, les Canadiens!] we're talking about here.

The chemical composition of the vinyl was *tweaked* with charcoal-based carbon content and nitrates so that the little plastic stripper clips were also usable as wet-weather fire starters.

I don't know if this applies to the ones made in North Carolina and sold in the USA, but a few decades back when I took an Alaskan USAF winter survival course, this was demonstrated with a couple of the *plastic sticks*.

Also unknown: if the charger guides or magazines themselves were ever made of the same composition. But y'know, the magazine floorplates could indeed be a mechanism for igniting sparks...if they were made of carbon steel instead of aluminum.


18 posted on 02/08/2016 8:44:54 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: rktman
Hundred round rotary mags? “They” never seem to run out of “questionable” misnomers do “they”?


19 posted on 02/08/2016 8:50:00 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy
The chemical composition of the vinyl was *tweaked* with charcoal-based carbon content and nitrates so that the little plastic stripper clips were also usable as wet-weather fire starters.

OK, that's really clever. Hats (toques?) off to les Canadiens. I want some.

20 posted on 02/08/2016 8:52:14 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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