"Cruz 2013 Tweet: Any bill this body passes should have border security first & then legalization."
Posted on 02/02/2016 1:08:02 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Edited on 02/02/2016 1:11:04 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz is lashing out at Marco Rubio and Donald Trump on immigration while facing New Hampshire voters for the first time since his Iowa caucus victory.
Cruz charged that Rubio led the fight for "amnesty" for immigrants in the country illegally. He also said Trump didn't do anything to fight immigration reform as the debate raged on Capitol Hill in 2013.
Better than Cruz, who started in December after 9 months of avoiding the issue and refusing to take legalization off the table when directly asked.
I understand that he’s going to be doing an appearance in NH in a couple hours.
That’s what he needs to do, and nothing but that until next week.
Cruz is jousting at windmills in NH.
Makes sense to me.
“Trump isn’t in Congress. He’s a private citizen. What was he supposed to do?”
Trump didn’t have to say this but he did - in 2012 following the election.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3391932/posts?page=37#37
As for the dishonest claim that Cruz opposed legalization, even though he never did, based on the Gang of Eight bill.
The Gang of Eight fight was about citizenship. No one at that time was opposing legalization, not even Cruz. Rush Limbaugh even called deportation “unrealistic,” and actually favored, on air, Ted Cruz’s plan of legalizing them “after the border is secure” and as long as they cannot vote.
Not Cruz, not Sessions, not anybody, was fighting legalization of illegals, which Ted Cruz now claims he always opposed.
For a break down of Cruz’s public statements from 2013 to 2015 on legalization, demonstrating that he did support it, posters should see these two links:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372213/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3374003/posts
Cruz and his supporters play fast and loose with the truth by confusing legalization with the pathway to citizenship, the latter of which he always opposed, while the former he supported openly as recently as March of this year, before going silent on the issue and promising there would be a “conversation” about what to do with illegals at some unspecified later time.
Let’em have it with both barrels, Ted!
Nice try but big ZERO.
You’re spinning a tall tale.
And those links go to your own vanities.
I’ve given the information with links and quotes on this thread.
mica morrison is on Cavuto .......... harridan, blonde witch, she shows her teeth constantly she is an insult by Cruz on TV viewers
the witch is too old to pretend she’s 30
harridan, witch harridan
if she is what Cruz is he’s doomed, doomed by a blonde witch I say
So, why not give a specific to explain how I'm "spinning a tall tale"? As for the links: yes, they go to my own posts, with 5 or 6 direct sources and quotes in each one.
He held no public office. His views were his personal views the same way you have personal views. Cruz views affect policy. Rubio’s views affected policy. Trump’s views did not. I hope and pray that at the next GOP debate that Trump calls out this lying POS Cruz for saying Trump wants to keep Obamacare and Trump believes in abortion. Both and out lies that POS, desperate Cruz was putting out INSIDE THE CAUCUSES last night. Carson should file charges against him for passing out a paper saying Carson was getting out of the race after Iowa and all his supporters should support him instead. The tactics that Cruz used came straight out of a democrat playbook. Anything to win is his motto. And I didn’t even mention the fake flier he sent out telling people how much trouble they would be in with the law if they didn’t show up and vote for him.
So, we are further to believe that, when the bill languished in the House for a full year, that somehow it was still the Ted Cruz magic that prevented the bill from passing in the House.
This is all nonsense. Ted prevented nothing. The bill failed in the House because of another voter uprising, and the fact that the House has generally opposed the amnesty schemes of the past decade. And it was finally laid to rest with the shocking primary defeat of amnesty pusher Eric Cantor.
And:
President Obama is pushing a path to citizenship as a "poison pill" to prevent meaningful immigration reform, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) charged Monday.
If the bill already contained a poison pill, why did Ted think he needed to try to add poison pills? And, why was one of his pills an amendment to remove the very pathway to citizenship he claimed would already kill the bill?
Ted is simply revising history for the presidential campaign since Trump entered the race and made immigration one of the top issues. Ted offered amendments to try and improve it enough to assist in passage in the House.
Isn’t it hypocritical of Cruz to be lecturing anyone on immigration when he called for the increase of H1Bs. Given H1Bs do not effect illegal immigration, but it does effect our jobs.
"Cruz 2013 Tweet: Any bill this body passes should have border security first & then legalization."
You need to put Trump’s comments about “self-deportation” and Romney’s PR failure into perspective (and yes, both he and Cruz have only recently gotten tougher on full-scale deportations of illegals), if you want to be fair and to really try to understand Trump’s long-term views on immigration (and not just mislead people).
AuntB’s quotes in her post earlier in the thread are very helpful in this regard. Here are some other good ones:
From The America We Deserve (2000):
“It comes down to this: we must take care of our own people first. Our policy to people born elsewhere should be clear: Enter by the law, or leave.”
From Time to Get Tough (2011):
“Illegal criminals have got to go...Have we suddenly become an annex of Mexico’s prison system? If so, Mexico should pay for it. I actually have a theory that Mexico is sending their absolute worst, possibly including prisoners, in order for us to bear the cost, both financial and social...The illegal crime problem is far more serious and threatening than most people understand...
“We cannot become the repository for all the poor and desperate people of the world. For America to change its culture and way of life, to give away American jobs at a time of high unemployment to noncitizens who have broken the law to come here, is to commit economic and cultural suicide...
“The root cause of all the welfare payments to illegal aliens is the so-called ‘anchor baby’ phenomenon...The child automatically becomes an American citizen, though this was never the intention of the Fourteenth Amendment...
“We’ve all heard it a million times: ‘We need illegal immigrants because they are willing to do jobs Americans just won’t.’ To that one I say, ‘Says who?’ We have 25 million citizens who need jobs, and 7 million illegal immigrants holding American jobs. Do the math...
“Look, if a nation can’t protect its own borders, it ceases to be a country. We’re not just some landmass that anyone who wants to can trample at will. I believe America is an exceptional nation worthy of protection. That requires getting tough on border enforcement...
“The wall there [in Yuma, AZ] is a serious 20-foot wall. It has three walls separated by 75-yard ‘no man’s lands’ for border agents to zoom up and down in vehicles. It also has cameras, radio systems, radar, and pole-topped lights...The point is that properly built walls work. We just need the political will to finish the job.”
Oh really? Trump was only warning that the amnesty bill would be the death of the GOP at the time (this is just another of Cruz’s misrepresentations about Trump’s positions/history):
CPAC 2013: Donald Trump: Immigration reform is a ‘suicide mission’ for GOP
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/06/03/trump-immigration-bill-a-republican-death-wish/
Trump: Immigration Bill a Republican ‘Death Wish’
Thanks for posting that. It makes me much more comfortable with Trump on the issue.
Ummm....was Trump in a position to pass a law or something, that I’m not aware of???
“He also said Trump didn’t do anything to fight immigration reform as the debate raged on Capitol Hill in 2013.”
Huh?
It’s a valid point... what was Trump’s stance on the immigration issue back in 2013? The fact he wasn’t yet running for President didn’t prevent him from sounding off on other matters.
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