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To: thackney; wastedyears; Protect the Bill of Rights; Yo-Yo; sparklite2; Dr. Sivana; ctdonath2; ...

There are a lot of people (in and out of FR) saying that we absolutely should do this, because if men are subject to the draft, so women should be as well...what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

I could not disagree more strongly to this shortsighted point of view.

Having women in combat is bad. It is wrong. It is wrong, from the ground up and from all points of view, it is wrong, and it is going to get people killed, and we are going to lose battles and wars as a result of it.

Any thinking person should be against women in combat as a basis for any other decisions on the draft, deployments or anything else.

The US Navy and US Army have already made the choice to allow women into combat roles, and the decreased readiness, capability and morale are evident.

On the pessimistic side, this is all a fait accompli. It is a done deal, as is open homosexuality in the military. It isn’t going to get undone now by anyone, I don’t care who gets into office. Mark my words. Any politician, general, or anyone else who says they are going to reverse this is lying, and they know it.

And the liberals who pushed for this (to turn the military into Scandinavian Job Program-like organizations) have known this from the start, what the end game is, the destruction of the military as an effective force with a global reach. That is why Obama has used executive orders to advance this, and his administration has purged anyone from the military who might stand in the way and has replaced them with pliant stooges. The ones who remain see full well what will happen if they speak out.

As this progresses, we are going to see a lot of military leaders (and personnel at all rank levels) saying how wrong people were who were against this, that readiness and capability is better than it has ever been, and everything is going to be good. They will say this, and may even believe it themselves, because it will be good for their careers. That will all be understood.

Then, when the SHTF, and there is death, humiliation, and defeat, as is the case in any military endeavor that has any liberal fingerprints on it at all, the people responsible for this will be long gone. If they aren’t long gone, they will be screaming the loudest and the longest about how could all of this have come to pass, and who is responsible for this!


133 posted on 02/04/2016 2:31:45 PM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: rlmorel

I oppose draft registration, but if it’s there, it’s there for all. Military service and combat are not synonymous, however. I met lots of men I wouldn’t want to be in a combat situation with.


134 posted on 02/04/2016 2:37:42 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: rlmorel

I did the math, once, when I was bored. The Chinese, at the time, could have their male population decimated three times and still have a 1:1 ratio of male to female. Scary.


135 posted on 02/04/2016 2:39:28 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: rlmorel

I would suggest that you do not appreciate how the political game is played in Washington. Often, the way to success is through in indirect approach. Politicians are worms and weaklings, they will collapse like a cheap suit with confronted with the consequences of their political games. The Marines are complete masters of this game. Read about the Chowder Society if you want to know how the military can play the game with their political masters. A female will never be drafted by the United States, ever.


136 posted on 02/04/2016 2:59:27 PM PST by centurion316
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To: rlmorel

I am not promoting women in combat, if the liberal women are demanding equality, then give it to them, along with all of the “perks”.

Once reality hits them square in the face, maybe they’ll rethink it.

Maybe this is also what is needed to help stem the social experimentation that the elected pukes in DC keep insisting on.


137 posted on 02/04/2016 3:03:29 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: rlmorel

We know that, but the people in charge do not care - an exercise in population reduction to them.


139 posted on 02/04/2016 3:17:29 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rlmorel

You sir are 100% correct. Bad times are ahead for our nation’s military. It makes my blood boil.


140 posted on 02/04/2016 3:21:50 PM PST by ohioman
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To: rlmorel

My comment was intended to illustrate the absurdity of the whole notion of women in combat. Feminists may not like it, but the reality is that men weren’t genetically programmed to give birth and raise children in the home. If we were, we’d be women. That’s their job. The man’s job is to go get the food and provide the physical protection. If women were equipped to do this, they’d be men.

Physical proof? Forget about muscle mass, strength and endurance, which are indisputable. Men are inherently better than women in spatial judgments. A man can instinctively determine the course and speed of an object and predict its future location, all while taking into account his own relative speed and vector. It’s what enabled early man to hunt down game for food, and modern man to play quarterback or centerfield. It also makes men suited for combat.

I’m not saying women cannot do these things at all, but when this ability is objectively tested, men are far better at it than women. It’s why women get lost so easily. Men don’t get lost.

We “explore alternate routes.”


141 posted on 02/04/2016 3:41:01 PM PST by henkster (Hillary Clinton's supporters are beginning to realize they are fettered to a corpse.)
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To: rlmorel
Again, and I cannot stress this enough, registration for the draft is not the same as being drafted, women have been volunteering to serve in the armed services for over 50 years, and any job they can perform voluntarily they can also perform involuntarily and in the process free up MEN for the fighting combat roles.

Why is it that you insist on equating "draft" with "combat"? "Draft" equates with "service," the same sort of service they have been performing since the end of the draft in 1974.

I do not support drafting women to put rifles in their hands, 100lb packs on their backs, and shove them to the front lines. However, I do support drafting them only in time of national emergency to perform support tasks, and free up able bodied MEN for the front line roles.

The only way to draft women, is to register them first.

142 posted on 02/04/2016 4:00:26 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: rlmorel
There is a big difference between UMT and putting women in combat arms.

IMO seeing people of both genders learning self discipline, teamwork and finding a common good beyond themselves, is part of growing up. Women don't have to be subject to combat for that to be good.

If women want equality then they can serve their country shoulder to shoulder with the men that have been expected to do it. If they don't like femininazis speaking for them, this is what they earned by their silence.

143 posted on 02/04/2016 4:05:45 PM PST by pfflier
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To: rlmorel
There are a lot of people (in and out of FR) saying that we absolutely should do this,

That's because a lot of people are becoming emotional singularities, black holes of selfishness and self centeredness, blaming all American women for the actions of a small minority of feminazis and the fag cuckolds that support them.

Sound harsh and unrestrained? Thank Donald Trump.

144 posted on 02/04/2016 4:41:19 PM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: rlmorel

I can’t disagree with you. You make an excellent argument against it. To bad the feminist don’t understand your points.

There are way to many non-combat rolls for women in the Military. But they are bound and determined to force it on the Military, just as they forced COMMIE CORE and 0’Care down our throats.

I know my husband would not have liked to serve with females on ship, homosexuals or transgenders. He is a 20 yr career Navy Ret. SCPO. Nor would my cousin’s husband who was 30 year career USAF officer. But they served in a different Military than today’s.

Obama is bound and determined to do this, no matter how wrong it is.


149 posted on 02/04/2016 8:59:32 PM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: rlmorel

I could not agree with you more come on if you don’t mind I will publish your assessment on my blog. personally I believe that there should be a two tiered power structure in the United States. 1 the highest here should be a military council I’ve proven combat leader at the highest level the executive branch should be termed the War Department. and they should appoint under them a civilian domestic affairs administration. America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers and politicians have done nothing to deserve or earn the power that they think they control. The sooner this comes to pass the happier I’ll be. I just hope I live to see it


152 posted on 02/04/2016 9:17:55 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: rlmorel

I don’t disagree with a single thing you said. My position on making women register for the draft, as I’ve indicated in other posts, is that moms, dads and grandparents will say, “OK, we’ve had enough of this nonsense!” and rise up against it.

Early in my Army career, I worked with quite a few female soldiers and some of them were damned good soldiers in every respect - but in the context of the standards for their MOS. Not a single one was ready to be a Ranger, a SEAL, or a RECON Marine.

If you have to provide lengthy special training for a woman to just begin Ranger School or allow women numerous recycles above and beyond those allowed to men, then lower the standards to see them graduate for totally PC reasons, you’re admitting that women really can’t do anything a man can do.


159 posted on 02/05/2016 5:52:24 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: rlmorel

I had a ‘krewe’ of men and women subordinates, as a USAF warehouse supervisor in 1975, all races, shapes, and sizes.

The women could not hold their own, then, and that was not a ‘combat role’, combat job series number, nothin’!

If there was a shift change, you guessed it, whine, whine, whine.

If there was, (this being a military establishment), a mobility drill exercise, or an Operational Readiness Inspection, which included getting to your on-the-base workspace in 15 minutes or less, from wherever you were and what you were doing on-base or in town, and in correct uniform, whine, whine, whine. If the exercise required you to stay at your workspace for more than 12 hours, or over the entire weekend, (sleeping in the warehouse racks), without a break, (flight kitchens provided box lunches and coffee), in the clothes on your back ... you guessed it.

Since then, America has seen fit to swallow the swill of having female politicians being elected to mayorships, governorships.

As a Hurricane Katrina survivor, I saw the meltdown of a female governor firsthand.

So, to sum up, not no, but HECK NAW, do i want to see any women in any kind of combat, or combat support roles! They were bad enough in the ‘behind the lines’ jobs.


166 posted on 02/07/2016 8:12:35 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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