Posted on 01/30/2016 4:20:28 AM PST by ironman
CNN's Drew Griffin investigates Ted Cruz's eligibility.
Video ran on Anderson Cooper 360.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
“†and both of his parents were citizens at the time of his birthâ€
“Nope”
His mother was a naturalized U.S. citizen. She had been married to Fred Trump for 10 yrs before Donald was born.
No other possibility
Just because you wish it doesn't make it so.
The Founders could have easily specified that; they didn't.
I don't know if Rubio has a more valid claim, it's just very different....born in the USA, US citizenship at birth, but legal residents though not citizen parents.
Rubio's case is more of if a person is natural born to one country, which one is it?
The sad thing is, eight years after the Obama situation, eligibility STILL hasn't been defined.
At this rate, we're not that many elections away from a person being President of the US and some other country at the same time.
JMHO
“constitutional amendment?”
The Democrats and the Republicans have been proposing one Constitutional Amendment after another for decades in an attempt to get rid of the natural born citizen clause, and every such bill has been defeated in Congress. Frustrated at not being able to get rid of the prohibition against these candidates who were not born in the United States jurisdiction with two U.S. citizen parents, they instead made an under the table bargain between McCain and Obama to deny the law and its true meaning and work together to suppress any attempts to enforce the Constitutional clause in a court of law.
If and when he rises in the polls and poses a credible challenge to Trump, Trump will plant seeds of doubt.
Meanwhile, he's the subject of multiple lawsuits, just like Obama was and Cruz is. The press doesn't report the lawsuits prominently, and when it does report them, it does so poorly.
Marco Rubio is a U.S. citizen by naturalization at birth under the authority of the same U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 as Ted Cruz, only in an earlier paragraph of that statutory law regarding the birth of a child within the jurisdiction of the United States with foreign parent/s.
I think the intention is as you state it - never any division of loyalty, on any basis, from the day you are born until the day you take the office.
“Such children are Aliens....”
“The Founders could have easily specified that; they didn’t.”
They did so by adopting Natural Law and the Law of Nations in the Constitution, and they in turn give effect to the common law in which natural born citizenship is adjudicated. The Founders also specified what forms of citizenship were not natural born citizenship, and that included any person born abroad, with or without U.S. citizen parents.
I've got the act open in my browser. Sec 301(a), to be precise. Cruz is at 301(a)(7) [next page, 236]. Where is Rubio?
No. If your parent is a U.S. citizen you are a natural born citizen.
“I think the intention is as you state it - never any division of loyalty, on any basis, from the day you are born until the day you take the office.”
We know it is so, based upon the history of the common law that originated naturalization of commoners in the Naturalization Act of 1541 for England. The shifting means of determining citizenship on the basis of jus sanguine and/or jus soli and related doctrines all arise out of the need to determine who owed an obligation of allegiance and obedience to the sovereign in exchange for protection from the sovereign. The conflicts in allegiance is what compelled a move away from feudalism towards nationalism and nationality as a form of citizenship. Blood relationship and place of birth are only means for determining a more reliable means of determining and enforcing allegiance.
Absolutely yes.
I don't know if that makes either one of them Natural Born Citizens or not. The Naturalization Act makes them citizens, but not "natural born".
Can't you acknowledge that (1) the question needs an answer and (2) their situations are different for "natural born" status.
It pretty much has to be as you say. Otherwise a person born NBC is forever eligible, even if they renounce US citizenship.
They did specifiy that. That is what natural born citizen means.
Born here of citizen parents.
Citizen, yes. Natural born citizen, no.
If you could be anything else when born, you cannot be a natural born citizen.
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