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Can Ted Cruz, a former Canadian citizen, be president?
CNN ^ | 1/29/2016 | Drew Griffin

Posted on 01/30/2016 4:20:28 AM PST by ironman

CNN's Drew Griffin investigates Ted Cruz's eligibility.

Video ran on Anderson Cooper 360.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; birthers; cruz; naturalborncitizen; yab; yetanotherbirther
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Lazamataz

‘An echo chamber gets pretty boring.’

Amen to that!

But it’s also fun to watch a kook shouting into an echo chamber.

The old guy in me still thinks it’s really awsome we can communicate like this. Typing directly to each other.


41 posted on 01/30/2016 5:24:00 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus; Cboldt

cboldt gave you the correct answer at #22


42 posted on 01/30/2016 5:24:45 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Theo

He was born here and both of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth


43 posted on 01/30/2016 5:25:20 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Trump went after Obama regarding his birth certificate. Just being consistent.

Having an eligible president is an important fundamental question.

Cruz is an awsome patriot, but he could be the source of discord until ...

well ... a constitutional amendment?


44 posted on 01/30/2016 5:26:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: BCrago66

Trumpbot Central would beg to observe that it’s what Trump is standing for, not who’s wanting Trump, is going to be what gets Trump either support or lack thereof in the end. And he hasn’t done that terribly bad. He’s got color.


45 posted on 01/30/2016 5:27:01 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BCrago66

No, The GOP is responsible for not challenging Obama in exchange for McCain’s fig leaf Senate Resolution


46 posted on 01/30/2016 5:30:09 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The 14th amendment is no help to Cruz, other that to find him naturalized. He's not in the "born in the US" section, so he has to be in the other one.
47 posted on 01/30/2016 5:30:50 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lurkinanloomin
8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth....says he is eligible...

It's current law...

48 posted on 01/30/2016 5:32:17 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: BCrago66

I don’t vote for ineligible candidates, so I did not vote for either Obama or McCain. The only eligible canddate on my ballot was Bob Barr.


49 posted on 01/30/2016 5:32:21 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Popman

If one receives their citizenship by operation of law, one is a naturalized citizen.


50 posted on 01/30/2016 5:33:16 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Good point.

Stupid garbage is refreshing.


51 posted on 01/30/2016 5:35:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: bushpilot2
Cruz supporters claim there's no requirement for his mother to petition US Consulate. "he was born a citizen"  photo image_zpsden0q5d9.jpeg
52 posted on 01/30/2016 5:35:37 AM PST by bushpilot2
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To: Popman

You need something more... you need the inability of Congress to strip his status.


53 posted on 01/30/2016 5:36:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I guess like the misguided optimist who happily dug through a box of manure to find the pony which had to be underneath it.


54 posted on 01/30/2016 5:37:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bushpilot2

It is accurate to say he need not petition US Consulate. He or his parents could, in the alternative, petition the INS or whatever the agency was at the time. State Department is not the only agency with the power to adjudicate claims of citizenship for aliens born abroad to US citizen parent or parents.


55 posted on 01/30/2016 5:38:33 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It’s an “echo chamber” because Cruz has done absolutely nothing to settle the question of his eligibility (and, no, saying it’s a silly question doesn’t answer it).


56 posted on 01/30/2016 5:38:56 AM PST by Pravious
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To: ironman

I don’t know if he is eligible or not, but if he is then would it be true that a Iranian Muslim could take an American wife. Take her to Iran, Syria wherever and have a child there. Let’s say they move to America when the child is 15. If Cruz is eligible to be president so would this fictional person.


57 posted on 01/30/2016 5:39:49 AM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Trump was not running against Obama!

We are being played yet again by the entire education-media-government liberal cabal.

Why can we never just not try to kick the damn football.

58 posted on 01/30/2016 5:39:55 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: bushpilot2
FS-240 came into being in late 1990. Between (and well before) 1970 and 1990, the form was FS-545, Certification of Birth.

Both forms have the same function under the law.

59 posted on 01/30/2016 5:40:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: ironman

It is clear from the Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946 that Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada.

No one has explained how someone can be a natural born citizen of more than one country at birth.

No one has explained how a person born with triple nationality meets the natural born requirement, with no foreign allegiances, of the intent of the US Constitution—see Jay to Washington 1787.

No one has explained how someone not born in America can be natural born, as by definition they were born under someone else’s jurisdiction. To this, Vattel made an exception—if you were born to a soldier serving out of the country in the service of the King to citizen parents, you were natural born. John McCain fit this description, as his father was in service to the nation and his parents were citizens.

Ted Cruz’s American citizenship comes from law—the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952. His mother met certain age and residency requirements prior to his birth. If he was born 40 years earlier, his mother could not even have passed her American citizenship to him. Therefore, no one disputes he has American citizenship, but that does not equal the pedigree of natural born.

There is nothing in the 14th Amendment that speaks to the term natural born, nor does it, nor can it, change the requirement for President. The author of the 14th Amendment, John Bingham, made it clear that the Amendment had nothing to do with being natural born.

We were taught in school 50 years ago that natural born meant born in the country of two American parents.

We have allowed that to now mean to be born in the country of one American parent(Obama—regardless of the fake birth certificate).

Now we want to devolve the definition to not even being born in America, of three nationalities, being a natural born citizen of another country and one American parent.

Nope, no divided loyalties are even possible there.

Let’s devolve it one step further for Rubio—born in America of no American parents, of nationals of another land.

Heck, let’s just make it open to all kids born anywhere in the world, even test tube babies of unknown origin. A true citizen of the world.


60 posted on 01/30/2016 5:41:15 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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