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To: ironman

It is clear from the Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946 that Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada.

No one has explained how someone can be a natural born citizen of more than one country at birth.

No one has explained how a person born with triple nationality meets the natural born requirement, with no foreign allegiances, of the intent of the US Constitution—see Jay to Washington 1787.

No one has explained how someone not born in America can be natural born, as by definition they were born under someone else’s jurisdiction. To this, Vattel made an exception—if you were born to a soldier serving out of the country in the service of the King to citizen parents, you were natural born. John McCain fit this description, as his father was in service to the nation and his parents were citizens.

Ted Cruz’s American citizenship comes from law—the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952. His mother met certain age and residency requirements prior to his birth. If he was born 40 years earlier, his mother could not even have passed her American citizenship to him. Therefore, no one disputes he has American citizenship, but that does not equal the pedigree of natural born.

There is nothing in the 14th Amendment that speaks to the term natural born, nor does it, nor can it, change the requirement for President. The author of the 14th Amendment, John Bingham, made it clear that the Amendment had nothing to do with being natural born.

We were taught in school 50 years ago that natural born meant born in the country of two American parents.

We have allowed that to now mean to be born in the country of one American parent(Obama—regardless of the fake birth certificate).

Now we want to devolve the definition to not even being born in America, of three nationalities, being a natural born citizen of another country and one American parent.

Nope, no divided loyalties are even possible there.

Let’s devolve it one step further for Rubio—born in America of no American parents, of nationals of another land.

Heck, let’s just make it open to all kids born anywhere in the world, even test tube babies of unknown origin. A true citizen of the world.


60 posted on 01/30/2016 5:41:15 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82
You and I see it just about exactly the same, until we get to Rubio. Rubio's case isn't further devolved from Cruz's, it's different. Rubio was born in the US, the birth certificate given to him is US, he never held a Cuban birth certificate.

I don't know if Rubio has a more valid claim, it's just very different....born in the USA, US citizenship at birth, but legal residents though not citizen parents.

Rubio's case is more of if a person is natural born to one country, which one is it?

The sad thing is, eight years after the Obama situation, eligibility STILL hasn't been defined.

At this rate, we're not that many elections away from a person being President of the US and some other country at the same time.

JMHO

83 posted on 01/30/2016 6:24:01 AM PST by grania
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To: exit82

You are exactly right, but whether they wish to admit it or not, they that support Cruz are on the same side of history of those who wish to destroy the Constitutional foundation of the nation.

Broadly speaking, there are two main ethoi that infuse American political and social efforts today. The first, is either de jure or de facto to provide American citizenship benefits to the inhabitants of the globe. Redistributing American wealth to the rest of the world is the goal of our politicians, oligarchs, elites and recent immigrants and many other citizens.

Having a foreign born president is fine with liberals, Democrats, many Republicans, illegal aliens and Cruz and his ilk.

The second effort is to ensure the dominance of Islam as the controlling religious and political power.

Almost every action or explanation in public discourse can be tied to one of these two overarching, all encompassing activities.

This will continue, led by all parties. In your lifetime (or your children’s) you will see America bled dry and Islam victorious. Simply chart the velocity of change in all maters politic and social during the last few years and project it. The demographics are against us, the will to oppose is too weak and held by too few.

While D. Trump is the only elite that will speak to this, even if temporarily victorious, a pendulum once swung to the right will pass back through the center to the far left.


111 posted on 01/30/2016 7:22:24 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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