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In His Own Words
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/29/2016 5:54:20 AM PST by Kaslin

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland." "I would press for universal healthcare. ... I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes." "We must have universal healthcare."

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to [take in Syrian refugees]"

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." "I hate the concept of guns." "The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions." "I probably identify more as a Democrat."

"Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing to say. I'm going to take care of everybody.... The government is going to pay for it." "I believe the Republicans are just too crazy right."

"I've very impressed by [Nancy Pelosi]. I like her a lot." "Hillary is a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine."

"I'm a liberal on healthcare." "As far as single payer, it works incredibly well in Canada." "I am pro-choice in every respect."

Those are Donald Trump's words over the last number of years. Trump's position supporting a socialist healthcare scheme is about the only consistent position he has maintained.

In 2010, Donald Trump funded Democrat efforts to stop Republicans from taking back Congress. In 2014, he switched teams and supported the Republican Establishment against conservatives. Now he has tilted all the way to the right to support the anti-establishment conservatives he so recently hated as "crazy right."

Conservatives, particularly evangelicals, have lost their ability to discern wolves in sheep's clothing. Donald Trump calls himself a Christian, but has never asked God for forgiveness and sees no need to repent. Point that out to many an evangelical Christian and they will be quick to accuse you of judging Donald Trump. And if you point out that 1 Corinthians 5 makes clear that Christians are to judge anyone who calls himself a Christian, Trump defenders will proclaim they are not electing a pastor. Paul wrote, "[do not] associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler". The Bible also implores the faithful to seek out godly men for their leaders.

Pastors in the United States -- including Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, an evangelical megachurch -- have hitched their wagons to Trump. Jeffress and other evangelical ministers seem convinced that the flawed vessel of Donald Trump can make America great again when they, as pastors, are supposed to be saving souls, not nations. Jeffress and his cohorts are seeking earthly powers to fight spiritual battles.

That men who spend their time wrapped in scripture and preaching in pulpits are quick to embrace a man who is on his third wife gets me thinking. This man is on his third wife -- after having cheated on his first wife with his second -- and says he has never asked God for forgiveness, cannot name a favorite book of the Bible and has no favorite passage of scripture. This suggests to me that many Christian preachers in this country have unsure moorings and let their homesickness for this country as they think they once knew it supersede their homesickness for the land to which they have not yet been, but to which they supposedly long.

As Screwtape wrote to Wormwood, "we want a man hag-ridden by the Future -- haunted by visions of an imminent heaven or hell upon earth -- ready to break the Enemy's commands in the present if by so doing we make him think he can attain the one or avert the other -- dependent for his faith on the success or failure of schemes whose end he will not live to see. We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow's end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present." Many a pastor and Christian for Trump seems hag-ridden by the Future and ready to pursue a rainbow.


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To: jospehm20

Maybe, probably. But he’s right.


81 posted on 01/29/2016 6:53:01 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Elsie

I wouldn’t vote for you for president either.


82 posted on 01/29/2016 6:53:25 AM PST by beandog (Trumps scared of the girl)
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To: ScottinVA; All

I cannot vouch for single-payer, abortion, and the kelo decision.

But I have extensively researched the gun control issue, and have written several articles about Trump’s views.

Your assertion on gun control is simply false. Trump in a couple of instances, put forward views that weakly supported a couple of gun control positions, 15 years ago. For example, he said that he supported the “assault weapon” ban that was already law at the time.

Weak support for an existing law.

Since then he revised his position and has strongly supported solid, pro-Second Amendment positions. He has done this more clearly and convincingly than all the other candidates other than, maybe, Ted Cruz.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/09/donald-trumps-policy-on-second-amendment.html


83 posted on 01/29/2016 6:53:42 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Elsie

That’s all I want to know. It is the most basic of questions but you’d be surprised at how many against Trump here won’t answer that.


84 posted on 01/29/2016 6:54:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

As much as I deplore him, yes Gaffer, I can see me voting for him. Better than Clinton!!!!!


85 posted on 01/29/2016 6:55:08 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Shimmer1
I find him dishonest, boastful, angry and rude, mean and coarse.

 

 

 

 


Matthew 23
 
  1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
  2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
  3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
  4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
  5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
  6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
  7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
  8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
  9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
 10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
 11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "

Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 

86 posted on 01/29/2016 6:55:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: babygene; Kaslin; don-o
What you guys don’t seem to get is that Trump supporters don’t support him because he’s the most conservative. They support him because he’s the most pro-USA and most anti-establishment. And they trust he will get things done and do what he says he will do.

What guarantee to you have on his words FRiend? You 'trust him' with literally *nothing* but a pocket full of wishes. Led by your nose, right down the garden path...

Pay no attention to principle and discipline, and you should have little surprise when you find you've been taken. That day will certainly come, predictable as sunrise tomorrow.

87 posted on 01/29/2016 6:55:20 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: ManHunter

You realize that government is paying for those people already, either through welfare payments or subsidies to existing hospitals.

Trump is just stating existing fact, and how he will reform it.


88 posted on 01/29/2016 6:56:52 AM PST by marktwain
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To: beandog

You have great wisdom.

Perhaps I should change my tagline...

Luke 18:13
“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’


89 posted on 01/29/2016 6:57:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gaffer

The reason they won’t answer it is because they are afraid they will be banned, like has already occurred.

I’m not afraid though. If I get banned so be it. I will not vote for Trump. I don’t vote for cheaters.


90 posted on 01/29/2016 6:57:27 AM PST by beandog (Trumps scared of the girl)
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To: MNJohnnie
Same applies to you Don-o. Waste all your time being an ass so now no one is listening.

I think I asked to to list lies in the article.

Why did you link to Comment 1 instead of a comment I made?

Fingers outpacing brain?

91 posted on 01/29/2016 6:57:59 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked!)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone who believes Erick Erickson gets exactly what they deserve—I hope he sells you one of his off shore investments.


92 posted on 01/29/2016 6:58:30 AM PST by R Rogers
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To: Elsie

Ahhh, if only you made some sense. I can’t even tell what you’re trying, unsuccessfully, to say. It’s often that way with those that try to beat others over the head with Scripture though.


93 posted on 01/29/2016 6:58:37 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("I like nonsense; it wakes up the brain cells." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: marktwain
You realize that government is we taxpayers are paying for those people already, either through welfare payments or subsidies to existing hospitals.
94 posted on 01/29/2016 6:59:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: alloysteel

“By the time of the Republican National Convention, The Donald will OWN the Republican party, lock, stock, and rainbarrel. His personal ranch, to run as a fiefdom, and set the rules of visitation, custody, and support.”

Sounds like Trump’s aspirations for the country.


95 posted on 01/29/2016 7:00:16 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: Kaslin

As I see it today, each has an opinion of what we need and their idea of who would best fix it. A conservative who did not seal our borders, send illegals back, undo obamacare, stop the spread of isis, create a climate for job stimulation, stop reaching across the aisle, take on the media, and move the GOP to action, undo the damage obama has done, be prepared to appoint the right man to the SC,... just being a conservative is not enough for this. There are many weak “conservatives” already in Washington... that is one of the problems.

These are not normal average times. We need someone who will fight the media, put some fire into the gop, and work for the people. Being a conservative is milk toast compared to what we need to save our Republic.

I’d like to know the age of those who still demand the person just be a conservative.


96 posted on 01/29/2016 7:00:27 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Gaffer
Would you do the same for Trump if he does? That’s the only question I have for you.

Of course not. I have not lost my way. I do not vote for liberals expecting conservative solutions... Hence, I will not vote for Trump in any case.

97 posted on 01/29/2016 7:00:32 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Shimmer1
I find him dishonest, boastful, angry and rude, mean and coarse. If our spouse, our pastors, our children acted like he acts, would we find that delightful?? The minute someone merely disagrees with him, he attacks and denigrates them personally, he is a bully. He doesn't have the capacity to address the issue(s) only attack the person.

And if I were to be glib, your statement to me fits so, so many in our RINO Congress it isn't funny. Yes, Trump could be some of things you say, but you have to realize that this is the first time that anyone with the gonads to rail and fight back against the system (in our case a House and Senate of cowards that gives Obama EVERYTHING he wants) and make some kind of change.

This country went with Hope and Change on the basis of an unknown halfrican Muslim's BS promises. Would that the examination Trump is getting been done on Obama, or even some of the quislings in our Congress that still to this day purport to be conservatives.

98 posted on 01/29/2016 7:00:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin

“And you know why he did. It was because he smeared a former POW, that’s why.”

If the “former POW” that you are mentioning is John McCain, your reply is amazingly lame.

Trump fired back at McCain, who is one of the architects of our current sorry situation.

Is McCain the “former POW” that you are speaking of?


99 posted on 01/29/2016 7:02:16 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gaffer

You’re miffed by the mode of delivery of the message, but where’s the refutation of the contents of the message itself?


100 posted on 01/29/2016 7:02:17 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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