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Posted on 01/28/2016 1:42:13 PM PST by jeannineinsd
Edited on 01/28/2016 4:03:48 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
To woo a new supermarket to South Los Angeles, city leaders offered up roughly two acres of city land for a single dollar - and proposed to sweeten the deal with $750,000 in federal funds to spruce up the site.
They offered to buy the house, they offered a sound wall, they offered to have the delivery at the furthest dock which would be further away then they were currently offloading the milk.
Nope. Nope. And Nope.
Finally they said, okay then, we will shut the store down.
The screeches of outrage were heard on Pluto.
In Orange County several decades ago, a new shopping mall was in the planning stages, on land owned by the Segerstrom farming family.
One proposal would place the center a few blocks to the north in the city of Santa Ana, while another proposal would put it a little to the south in the city of Costa Mesa.
Santa Ana “planners” saw it as an opportunity to get the developer to pay for streets, parks etc. They made strict demands, for approval.
Costa Mesa planners asked the developer if the city could do anything to help get it built.
Needless to say, it wound up on a site in Costa Mesa along the planned 405 freeway, and today stands as one of the iconic centers in the world.
This scenario with Santa Ana repeated years later, for siting of a professional basketball/hockey facility, with the winner this time Anaheim. (they tried three sites in Santa Ana before it was over)
Of course not, the noise and fast movements tend to scare the unicorns who are supposed to have hitching posts near that area!!
There fixed it for ya.
“Grocery stores ‘tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed,’ Rosenfeld said. ‘They don’t always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best’.”
Nah, the bureaucrats always know best. You can’t expect a businessman to know more about his own business than a hack like this dispensing red tape. No wonder government is a complete failure.
“They don’t always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best.”
You Think!
Better negotiated a 20 year pre-paid P & C insurance with rioting and vandalism clause and see how much the city wants to put up for that.
Good old Santa Ana.
Are you referring to South Coast Plaza? The sales tax generated from that center must be astronomical. It would be a real advantage to a city to have that center in its city limits.
Yes, that’s the one he was referring to.
I didn't realize there was another store so close to this location. That leads me back to the motives of LA city council - why would the council then refer to this neighborhood as a "food desert" and pay Numero Uno to build a store on this lot?
No wonder LA is messed up.
“Are you referring to South Coast Plaza? The sales tax generated from that center must be astronomical. It would be a real advantage to a city to have that center in its city limits.”
Of course. Second largest shopping center in the country, after Mall of Americas.
Annual Sales of $1.5 billion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Coast_Plaza
Planners in South Lost Angeles should fall to their knees for any builder/developer desiring to put up a project in their crappy area.
But instead far too many drive them away with onerous demands.
My father was an OC residential builder. He had plenty of stories.
They should do it. Use the TSA method for loss protection. Maybe a new union of Bernie Mart Security Agents.
“But academically trained urban planners know better.”
Yes, I wonder what academy “trains” urban planners. Or are they sorta like community planners. I can see how wonderful Chicago is since they had such a fabu community planner.
I’m sure the people who have run supermarkets know a little more about running supermarkets than academia trains its experts.
The store owner should tell the councilman that he can shove it - let him build his own ghetto store.
Like Maduro’s empty stores in Venezuela.
As I recall my history, Santa Ana was a loser in the Mexican War, at least as Gen. Zachary Taylor tells it.
Guess the city decided to copy this man’s accomplishments, not including the massacre of surrendered Texas soldier and civilians at San Jacinto(?) and Goliad.
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