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How a South L.A. supermarket proposal fell apart, after a decade of effort
Los Angeles Times ^ | 1/28/16 | Emily Alpert Reyes

Posted on 01/28/2016 1:42:13 PM PST by jeannineinsd

Edited on 01/28/2016 4:03:48 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

To woo a new supermarket to South Los Angeles, city leaders offered up roughly two acres of city land for a single dollar - and proposed to sweeten the deal with $750,000 in federal funds to spruce up the site.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: la; numerouno; supermarket
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LA City council is apparently having difficulty paying grocery stores to locate in South LA.

The grocery store business is concerned about parking, safety concerns, and traffic safety in getting the delivery trucks in and out.

But academically trained urban planners know better. It is apparently better to have a vacant lot, than to have a grocery store in the neighborhood.

1 posted on 01/28/2016 1:42:13 PM PST by jeannineinsd
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Broadway and 94th South LA photo grocery battle_zpswut9bb4x.jpg

Broadway and 94th, South Los Angeles

2 posted on 01/28/2016 1:48:32 PM PST by jeannineinsd
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Sounds like the city councilman was just looking to create more opportunities for the predators in his district.


3 posted on 01/28/2016 1:49:01 PM PST by PAR35
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The only surprise in this story is that some grocery store executive was seriously entertaining sinking substantial money and effort and reputational risk into bringing a large grocery store to crime-ridden South L.A. Its the definition of insanity -- a business thinks that it will get positive press for something like this but the ungrateful residents will soon start stealing from the place and the ungrateful press will pile on with stories about how the chain is ripping off poor inner city blacks with higher prices than in its suburban stores. Then there is this gem of a quote:

Grocery stores "tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed," Rosenfeld said

Uh, do you know the reason that they think this, genius? Because they DO need a certain number of parking spaces to succeed! They aren't stupid. Parking is one of the most absolutely critical elements of any project that isn't in a wealthy, downtown residential or business district of a city. They need the car traffic to survive. Yet this Rosenfeld is smarter than the guys who do this for a living.

4 posted on 01/28/2016 1:49:43 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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>>Grocery stores “tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed,” Rosenfeld said. “They don’t always want what an academically trained urban planner would want.<<

Rightly of Wrongly?????

If I didn’t know that was real, I would swear this was from the Onion.

If the business is wrong they cease to exist. If an academic idiot is wrong, he gets promoted through longevity.


5 posted on 01/28/2016 1:51:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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Grocery stores "tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that they need a certain number of parking spaces in front to succeed," Rosenfeld said. "They don't always want what an academically trained urban planner would want... They believe they know their business best."

Unspoken: "Whereas we, as government busybodies, know EVERYONE'S business best"

6 posted on 01/28/2016 1:51:58 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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I wouldn’t even drive through here during the day! really bad neighborhood..


7 posted on 01/28/2016 1:52:18 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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Won’t shoppers come on high speed rail and the hyperloop?

/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/


8 posted on 01/28/2016 1:52:37 PM PST by nascarnation
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They believe they know their business best

Fully that supermarket people would believe they know their business better than gov't people, particularly gov't people coming out of South Los Angeles. And that's another thing I love about. 94th and Broadway would be considered South-Central Los Angeles to anyone who has visited that area. It is north of the 105 and south of the LAPD's 77th St. Division which is also located on Broadway. In another words, not a good area. The only non-residential properties located in that area are motels, liquor stores, churches and mortuaries.

9 posted on 01/28/2016 1:54:00 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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You can always tell a Libtard.

But you can’t tell him much.


10 posted on 01/28/2016 1:54:36 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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>>Won’t shoppers come on high speed rail and the hyperloop?<<

Only if highly trained academics design them.


11 posted on 01/28/2016 1:55:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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There is already a Numero Uno at 91st and Figuroa, 2 blocks West and 3 blocks North of this location.


12 posted on 01/28/2016 1:55:46 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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I predict if Sanders is elected, one of the things we’ll see is “Bernie-Marts”, government-run stores in disadvantaged neighborhoods.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 1:57:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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“Other areas such as Culver City set standards for new development, she said. “Are we saying that South L.A. shouldn’t have a say?”

Suit yourself.


14 posted on 01/28/2016 1:59:12 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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You must be a racist thinking that poor minorities should walk five extra blocks to get their necessities. < / sarcasm >


15 posted on 01/28/2016 2:07:37 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Doesn’t look like an area concerned about managing to “reflect a truer Mission style or Craftsman style” - more like just getting a concrete box store built would be achievement enough.


16 posted on 01/28/2016 2:09:34 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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“There is already a Numero Uno at 91st and Figuroa, 2 blocks West and 3 blocks North of this location.”

Probably a couple blocks longer than they could expect to get in that bad a neighborhood.


17 posted on 01/28/2016 2:11:49 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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>it sharply opposed moving the building because it would create “a hiding space for criminal activity.”

Idiots. Then police your Dindu Nuffins and illegals.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 2:11:50 PM PST by soycd
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19 posted on 01/28/2016 2:13:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EST)
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Let Kobe Bryant build there. He’s got lots of money.


20 posted on 01/28/2016 2:15:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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