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Hands up, just shoot!
WND ^ | 27 Jan 2016 | Jeff Knox

Posted on 01/27/2016 7:06:46 PM PST by amorphous

The occupation of a remote wildlife refuge turned violent yesterday when federal agents stopped two vehicles carrying protesters to a town hall meeting in John Day, Oregon. Victoria Sharp, a passenger in one of those vehicles, has reported that federal agents opened fire on the group without provocation after conflicting and confusing demands for the protesters to surrender. Sharp reported that shots were first fired at Ryan Payne as he complied with orders to show his hands out of the window of the vehicle in which she was riding, but that the shots missed. Payne was calling for police to not shoot, as there were women in the vehicle, and exited the vehicle, asking that the women be allowed out.

At this point, LaVoy Finicum, one of the spokesmen for the occupiers, who was driving the vehicle in which Ms. Sharp was riding, yelled out the window that they were going to go talk to the sheriff (at the meeting in John Day), or that agents could just shoot him. He told the passengers to get down, and drove forward, precipitating heavy gunfire from the agents, and crashing the vehicle into a snowbank.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bundys; burns; fbi; lavoy; oregon; sedition
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To: amorphous

If this happened to a Black, all hell would break out. Even if LaVoy Finicum was charging the police, there would have been hell to pay (hint hint).


21 posted on 01/27/2016 7:29:00 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: amorphous

FBI are Obama Admin goon squad.


22 posted on 01/27/2016 7:31:05 PM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: dynoman
FBI murders surrendered Oregon rancher LaVoy Finicum with his hands up. Part 1, as per eye witness Mel Bundy. Jan 27, 2016. 55-year-old veteran, a published author (http://www.amazon.com/Only-Blood-Suff...), and an expectant grandfather LaVoy Finicum is survived by his wife and 11 children, 7 of whom were adopted.

Eye witness-FBI murders surrendering Oregon rancher LaVoy Finicum with his hands up Part 1


23 posted on 01/27/2016 7:31:46 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Sasparilla

cynical me- but there will either no cop cams or they will have malfunctioned


24 posted on 01/27/2016 7:33:00 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: amorphous

LaVoy Finicum: “I Would Rather Die Than Be Caged”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/us/lavoy-finicum-protester-killed-in-oregon.html?_r=0


25 posted on 01/27/2016 7:39:37 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Weird he said he rather die than be arrested.

For someone like you, it probably does seem "weird". That said, by all indications, he was prepared to surrender. He had is hands in the air - that's usually a sign of surrender - no?

"I have been raised in the country all my life. I love dearly to feel the wind on my face, to see the sun rise, to see the moon in the night. I have no intention of spending any of my days in a concrete box." - LaVoy Finicum

26 posted on 01/27/2016 7:40:25 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

I wasn’t there.

Why didn’t the police say this guy attacked them and they were forced to shoot him?

Seems like that would have been the first thing they said.

But they didn’t.


27 posted on 01/27/2016 7:41:34 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dynoman

So did Patrick Henry.
Uttering those words does not give police license to come out shooting...which many will bet is what happened.
The man is in his mid-50s with about ten kids and twenty grandchildren. He had women in the vehicle he was driving.
How hard is it for authorities to "wait out" the protesters? Give federal agents enough fully-automatic weapons, tanks, drones, and other assorted hardware...and eventually they can't resist the urge to use them. So predictable.


28 posted on 01/27/2016 7:42:48 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: amorphous

Oregon Occupier LaVoy Finicum Warns FBI He’d Take Death Over Jail
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-occupier-lavoy-finicum-warns-fbi-he-d-take-death-n491056


29 posted on 01/27/2016 7:44:03 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

R.I.P. LaVoy Finicum

A True American Patriot & Cowboy


30 posted on 01/27/2016 7:44:53 PM PST by amorphous
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To: RginTN

Traffic stop my @$$.


31 posted on 01/27/2016 7:45:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: amorphous
And this, folks, is why the government is buying so much ammunition. Listen to the uTube video if you haven't done so.
32 posted on 01/27/2016 7:46:35 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: amorphous

January 6th;

This also came with a warning: “I’m telling them right now — don’t point guns at me,” he said.

The FBI and local police said Tuesday night they had no information to release about arrest warrants.

Finicum hinted earlier Tuesday he was keen for an end to the situation. “I need to get home,” he said. “I got cows that are scattered and lost.”


Going home would have been a good choice, instead of all the bad ones that ended with him getting killed.


33 posted on 01/27/2016 7:46:46 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Blue Jays

It was his choice to be there. He mad many choices long the way - and could have made them differently and been alive.

His death is a consequence of his choices.


34 posted on 01/27/2016 7:49:04 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Nailbiter

..cynical me- but there will either no cop cams or they will have malfunctioned...

You are right. Come to think of it, there were NO copcams at the big Waco Twin Peaks shootout. Like Oregon, Waco cops had plenty of time to forget them. And 170+ bikers were arrested and wound up with absurd million dollar bonds.


35 posted on 01/27/2016 7:51:21 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: immadashell
Please don't hold your breath. Those videos (if they exist) will never see the light of day if they have not been erased by now.

You are correct sir. It is possible that EVERY dash cam and body can suffered catastrophic failure, all at once.
Look, if the Feds can get away with murdering all those people at Waco, don't you think they can easily get away with killing one?
I wonder if they decided beforehand, that someone needed to die?

36 posted on 01/27/2016 7:59:21 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: amorphous

Our Father who art in heaven ...

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37 posted on 01/27/2016 8:04:02 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: dynoman

An American citizen is dead.

He was killed without a trial.

He was killed by government officials.

The people with him were arrested for getting in the way of a federal employee.

He was killed because they got in the way of federal employees?

Seems like our government employees would have cooler heads than that.


38 posted on 01/27/2016 8:07:58 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dynoman

FBI much?


39 posted on 01/27/2016 8:10:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: amorphous

I am sympathetic to the ideas of the “Sagebrush Rebellion”. Fedzilla needs to be reined in, especially the statist Aholes who run the Bureau of Land Management.

That being said these people hitched their horse to the wrong wagon. Originally the protest was about the ranchers (the Hammonds) who were going back to jail. The Hammonds did not support the protesters. The local populace did not support the protesters.

I blame Ammon Bundy for this unfolding disaster. He was supposed to be their leader. There is no evidence of strategic thinking in this whole thing - it is all based on emotion rather than reason.

The protest at his father’s ranch succeeded because his family and the local populace supported them. You can’t barge in to an area where you are not wanted and not supported and expect a successful outcome.


40 posted on 01/27/2016 8:10:39 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% red.)
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