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If Evangelical Voters Take Their Religion Seriously, Ted Cruz Will Be The Republican Nominee
PJ Media ^ | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 01/25/2016 3:04:15 PM PST by Michael van der Galien

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To: BillyBoy
By ONE POINT and that poll was taken at the GOP CLUB, which is hardly representative of the whole city; let alone the entire state.

Oh...you live "IN" Chicago do you? You aren't a burby, lying about it, are you? South Sider are ya; maybe from Beverly?

LOL...I should have know; you suffer from SECOND CITY ( which Chicago no linger is and hasn't been for at least 50 years! )ENVY and hate NYC!

101 posted on 01/25/2016 9:08:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Impy
>> By ONE POINT and that poll was taken at the GOP CLUB, which is hardly representative of the whole city; let alone the entire state. <<

Yes, similar to how ultra-liberal New York is 92% NON Jewish and the 8% of the population is that is Jewish is hardly representative of New York as a whole -- so criticizing "New York values" is no more "targeting" Jews than bashing "Nevada's casinos & prostitution" is a racist comment and thinly veiled swipe at the 8% of the population that happens to be black. Even Al Sharpton would have a hard time trying to imply an swipe against Nevada was due to the state being 8% black.

In fact, the only way you would could see a criticism of New York values as somehow specifically targeting Jewish people is if you believed in some crazy conspiracy that "the Jews" are the ones who "control" the culture and politics of New York. Ironically, THAT would be anti-Jewish. I sincerely hope you're not one of kool-aid drinkers believing in a secret underground Jewish conspiracy pulls the strings of the New York government.

>> Oh...you live "IN" Chicago do you? You aren't a burby, lying about it, are you? <<

You busted me. I am indeed a suburbanite. Chicago style politics infest the Crook County suburbs as well, by the way. We're gerrymandered into having their politicians "represent" us. If it makes you feel better, Impy lives in the city itself, and he hates Chicago style politics too. You don't know much about the locals here, do you? All Chicago area conservatives hate Chicago style politics, just as conservative New Yorkers hate New York values.

>> you suffer from SECOND CITY ( which Chicago no linger is and hasn't been for at least 50 years! )ENVY and hate NYC! <<

I'm well aware L.A. is number two, though take away its illegal alien population and I'd be surprised if they rank in the top 10. I actually love NYC and would be thrilled to visit the Statue of Liberty, Times Square, Empire State Building, etc. However, like all conservatives, I loathe New York values. If you admire Trump's pal Rudy Giuliani dressing in drag while Trump buries his face in Rudy's fake boobs, knock yourself out. Unfortunately for you, real conservatives won't touch New York values with a 10 foot pole.

102 posted on 01/25/2016 9:47:33 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: nopardons

Then why are so many coming out in support of Cruz?

Charsima Founder Steve Strang endorses Cruz

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/54606-charisma-founder-steve-strang-endorses-ted-cruz-for-presidenG

As have 20 Eagle Forum Leaders http://www.wopular.com/cruz-president-announces-endorsement-eagle-forum-activists,

Gary Bauer, http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/22/gary-bauer-endorses-sen-ted-cruz-2016/

Ted Cruz: Historical Conservative Leaders Back Texas Senator For President
http://www.hngn.com/articles/171689/20160121/ted-cruz-historical-conservative-leaders-back-texas-senator-president.htm

These are just some of the many reasons this Evangelical will be voting Cruz.

Trump makes noise he believes in Christianity, but has not come to a personal relationship with Christ. http://www.charismanews.com/us/50654-donald-trump-says-he-loves-god-but-is-unsure-if-he-s-asked-forgiveness

Why should I vote for a Hillary lover? Donor, while he’s running for the GOPe ticket, he’s donating to the Dem Gun Grabber VA Governor. Has a very long history of donating to dems. Trump donates to VA GUV GUN GRABBER WHILE RUNNING FOR GOP PRESIDENTIAL TICKET.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/346374/did-you-know-terry-mcauliffe-took-25000-donald-trump

Trump Gives ‘Amazing’ NoKo ‘Maniac’ Kim Jong Un ‘Credit’ for Strong Leadership
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/1/10/trump-gives-amazing-noko-maniac-kim-jong-un-credit-for-strong-leadership/?singlepage=true

Donald Trump: ‘I Identify More As A Democrat,’ Emphatically Praises Hillary
http://www.westernjournalism.com/donald-trump-i-identify-more-as-a-democrat-emphatically-praises-hillary/

Trump history of being big Dem donator
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html

Trump: Deport illegals, but expedite the return of “the good ones” for legal status Touch Back a dem program.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/30/trump-deport-illegals-but-expedite-the-return-of-the-good-ones-for-legal-status/

When Conservatives Needed Allies, Donald Trump Sided with Obama

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430116/donald-trump-glenn-beck-progressive

Tone-deaf Trump touts eminent domain support
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tone-deaf-trump-touts-eminent-domain-support/article/2581302


103 posted on 01/25/2016 9:53:00 PM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: GailA
That's a whole lot of SPAM you just threw up all over FR.

Do they really matter?

Have endorsers mattered at all, in recent primaries? No, they haven't.

And frankly, I have never even heard of some of those things.

Is someone from Ted's team passing out "walking around money"? We'll never know, but hey.....ya never know. And NO, Trump doesn't have to do that.

If a person's religion, or whatever was REALLY that important, then WHY wasn't Billy Graham anointed president by acclimation? BECAUSE AMERICA DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT !

This pathetic article is one man's opinion and that man posted it here to boot, but only exurpted it to get hits on another site.

Let me explain this to you, in very simple terms.....it is IMPOSSIBLE to convince every singe American evangelical to vote for Ted.

There are NOT enough evangelicals in this country to swing any primary, caucus, and/or general election for Cruz; there just aren't enough of them.

104 posted on 01/25/2016 10:06:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Ted Cruz isn’t a liar, but you can keep beating this dead horse-won’t make any difference.


105 posted on 01/25/2016 10:08:10 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1
Ted Cruz isn’t a liar, but you can keep beating this dead horse-won’t make any difference.

It makes no difference to you simply because you're determined not to believe it. This doesn't make Cruz's record go away though, regardless of how much his dishonest supporters on this website wail and harass people who disagree with them.

106 posted on 01/25/2016 10:09:05 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“I am an ordained retired Evangelical-Spirit filled pastor with over 42 years ministry experience and I am voting for Trump because I believe he is God’s man for this four year term. I am sorry Gary Baur is more important than me but my vote counts same as his does. so DEAL WITH IT!
freegards”

I am sure Elmer Gantry would approve of this post!


107 posted on 01/25/2016 10:23:31 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: BillyBoy; nopardons

Yeah, I live in largely Hispanic neighborhood in the city, raised here. I don’t know how NYers feel but I rather regard anyone from the area as a Chicagoan, makes no matter to me if you’re passed the city limits.

I do not feel insulted when people attack “Chicago politics” aka C(r)ook county politics which extend across most of suburbs in Cook.

Only thing I don’t like is when people go on about certain Black politicos like Obama or Jesse Jackson as products of Chicago when they are carpetbagging imports from other places. We have plenty of native scum, but Obama’s are not an indigenous species.

I do not understand why a conservative NYer would be offended by Cruz’s remark about NY values or why anyone would think they had diddly squat to do with criticizing Jews. Such a ridiculous accusation I would expect only from lib morons. Cruz was criticizing GD liberal perversion and idiocy and everyone should damn well be aware of tat.

It’s not as if the state is in play, it’s very heavily rat and anyone who thinks Trump could even come close to carrying it is deluding themselves, he’d do as well as Romney did in MA.

NY values, Hollyweird values, Chicago politics, these are things that deserve criticism and things that are criticized by plenty of decent people that live in those places. Any freeper who says otherwise is just agreeing with Trump for the sake of agreeing with Trump.


108 posted on 01/25/2016 11:56:59 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy
You live on the West Side ?

Look, the vast majority of Chicagoans I know, do NOT consider BURBIES to be Chicagoans. LOL...you're an outlier. :-)

You don't understand New Yorkers at all, but that's understandable. But even upstaters were and still ARE POed at Ted for his remarks and phony non-apology.

109 posted on 01/26/2016 12:05:25 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Yes, Humboldt Park. Just north 100% Black Gettoland. Family area, largely Hispanic, some Black, increasingly White, my new neighbors seem like yuppies to me. Gentrifying a little, no major supermarket in the immediate vicinity though, used to be a Jewel when I was a kid, very convenient, now it’s a CVS Pharmacy.

” the vast majority of Chicagoans I know, do NOT consider BURBIES to be Chicagoans”

Well, Naperville? No, of course not.

Evanston or Cicero or Evergreen park? Sure, that’s close enough for me. Maybe that’s just me.

“You don’t understand New Yorkers at all, but that’s understandable. But even upstaters were and still ARE POed at Ted for his remarks and phony non-apology.”

Fair enough. It seemed pretty clear to me though that he meant to criticize liberal values not just “attack NY”. I would figure on conservatives taking it that way rather than taking offense but ok.

Plenty of wonderful things about NYC and indeed all er... most of America’s big cities.


110 posted on 01/26/2016 12:26:41 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy
I guessed right then. :-)

I lived in Chicago...NEAR NORTH; LSD and still gave friends there.

Well, they people I knew and know, there, don't consider Evanston, Wilmet, ( you threw Cicero in the mix? LOL ), nor any other part as Chicago; though Lincolnwood gets a pass, but NOT Skokie.

Shame about your Jewel! :-(

I'm a born and bred New Yorker ( Manhattan) so I DO understand it; even though I don't live there now. ;^)

Transplants from other parts of the nation don't "get it" either and they aren't REAL NEW YORKERS !

And there ARE times I miss Chicago, at times; especially my friends and looking out my windows at the lake.

111 posted on 01/26/2016 12:34:25 AM PST by nopardons
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To: dforest

Yeah, the polls show Trump doing bad against Hillary and worse against Sanders, yet people continue to claim he’s somehow electable. Despite there being decades worth of negative and potentially offensive quotes on camera from him for the Democrats to weave into attack ads. The Democrat campaign against Trump will make the Republican efforts look like love taps.


112 posted on 01/26/2016 12:37:09 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: nopardons

Well that explains the you that you are.....no wonder either!


113 posted on 01/26/2016 12:37:36 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
No it doesn't; you have less idea WHO and WHAT I am, more than ever now; pet.

You have no idea where else I have lived, summered, winetred, nor where I live now.

So what HELLHOLE were you born in and where do YOU live now?

114 posted on 01/26/2016 12:50:28 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You guessed well on where Billyboy lived too with less to go on, well done. ;d

Rather than escape to warmer or more GOP environs I think I’d most like to live downtown with a view of the lake. Many “vote with your feet” types wouldn’t understand, I complain about local politics and they say “move!”.

Been to NYC twice, before 9/11 when I was a teenager, I have a photo taken in the WTC observation deck, creeps me out to look at it and it’s year 2000 time stamp. I loved looking out of the hotel window in the middle of night and seeing a busy street and how big the city felt.


115 posted on 01/26/2016 12:54:56 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy
After living in Chicago for 17 years, I do really know it, though I haven't lived there in a long time. As I said, I still have friends there, so I do visit.

One "bad" thing about living on LSD, when the plane thing that goes on in the summer, one of the bathrooms over looked the lake and the planes fly at about our floor/window level. So it was either use a different bathroom, or close the drapes. LOL

Otherwise, no matter the season, it was always wonderful to look out over the lake and we used to watch the Mackinac sailboat race every year, from the living room or the library windows.

NYC is something else again, but sadly, it isn't what it used to be; but then, what is?

Yes, 9/11 was awful; especially for those who knew/was related to an innocent American who was murdered that dreadful day.

116 posted on 01/26/2016 1:22:43 AM PST by nopardons
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To: CrimsonTidegirl
I agree that the illegal invasion is an existential threat.

However, the invasion has underlying causes like demogrphy/Mark Steyn that are hardly discussed. Their populations grow while ours shrinks. Our fiat/debt/mercantile based monetary/economic system is helping to destroy their homeland economies to temporarily float ours. Our nation building and religious pluralism helps to create their civil wars. Our welfare system is like hanging a steak in front of a dog. All these things and many more many levels deeper are the roots of the illegal invasion.

117 posted on 01/26/2016 1:24:48 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: BillyBoy
I knew that you are a BURBY; you stink of it. There IS a difference between REAL CHICAGOANS and BURBIES, as any Chicagoan will tell tell you.

No, I'm not an anti-Semite, nor am i a tinfoiler who believes in stupid conspiracy theories.

Oh come on...Chicago was the 3rd City, 50+ years ago and no, I didn't live there 50+ years ago, but yes, long ago.

You wear a blindfold, blinkers, and earplugs, so you don't understand the TRUMP MOVEMENT. :-)

118 posted on 01/26/2016 1:33:04 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
There are NOT enough evangelicals

That may be true, God knows.

But Trump is a vague and exceedingly dubious bill of goods and I could not vote for him if Cruz never existed and I was that last evangelical here on earth.

Trump is wonderfully entertaining though.

119 posted on 01/26/2016 1:33:34 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: theoldmarine

Glend Beck, like ted Cruz..is RIGHT ON THE ISSUES, religion attached to his lapel is secondary.


120 posted on 01/26/2016 4:24:33 AM PST by rovenstinez
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