Posted on 01/25/2016 8:32:46 AM PST by rktman
I have never, ever had anyone tell me that he had too much ammunition. Not in a combat zone, not in a civil disaster, not even in peacetime. Never. Nor have I lived through a time where our governing class was so deeply corrupt, so utterly foolish, and so dangerously focused on the perpetuation of its own power that it risked bringing down everything we have built not merely in the United States but in the entire West.
Right now, if you are watching the news, you have questions about the future. And the answer to all of them is to buy ammo.
Buying ammo is a no-lose proposition. Look, the worst thing that happens if you buy more ammo is that you have more ammo. Plus, much of our consumer ammo is made by hardworking Americans, and many of those ammo makers are located in red states where the right to keep and bear arms is celebrated and respected. So youâre helping fellow conservative Americans, which is good. And youâre infuriating people like that sanctimonious, Second Amendment-hating incompetent infesting the White House, which is great.
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All with all necessities, get what you can while you still can.
I don't expect the country's leftward drift to end anytime soon, if ever.
So I'm salting guns and ammo away for son and grandson too.
Agreed on the multiple firefights issue - the best way to survive one is to be somewhere else.
On the issue of how much is too much, here are my thoughts:
1) Having more than you need (8 firefights worth, for example) leaves you with options. You could trade extra for other things you need and/or you could equip others in your group if they are low (and that latter point emphasizes the need for common calibers - in rifles I believe that .22LR, .223/5.56mm and .308 are the big three.
2) Of course, having more than you “need” (a totally subjective measure, of course) could be a drain on financial resources that are needed for other things. For example, spare parts for guns and other critical equipment, extra food (eating brass doesn’t work for me), various medical supplies, books with critical information that you simply cannot memorize, a means to produce heat and/or power, a means to purify water, gold and/or silver for trading, acquisitions, etc. in a mostly barter economy, etc., etc. There is literally no limit...which militates against TOO much ammo.
Besides, if you’re moving around a lot, ammo is pretty heavy.
The problem is NY state.
Yeah, in CT no one even ship AIR GUNS let alone ammo.
I bought a case of Golden Tiger. Nice brass. Not a single glitch in the first 240 but who knows. Has anyone ever found the 74 ammo in Brown Bear?
74 BB doesn’t exist to my knowledge. Only Barnaul ammo that is 5.45 is Silver Bear.
Golden Tiger is the absolute best plinking ammo out there and probably just as good as 7N6 for SD. Haven’t seen any in years.
you seem to be forgetting that those who did “shelter in place” did have weapons to defend themselves, at least till the thug Police AND National Guard came and got them.
Tell that to the Koreans that protected their Store during the Rodney King Riots.
As far as Katrina ... there were many that told the Police and National Guard to take a hike and as a former member of the LAARNG I knew many involved and they busted and or bypassed a bunch of the PD aholes (as well as the Governor).
New Orleans is an evil corrupt 3rd world cesspool... it is where I came from to become TexasTransplant... I predicted much of what would happen before and during Katrina and was nearly banned here for being “RACIST” ... I was about 97% accurate even predicting 9th Ward BS, the Mayor and Governor on the take...
I knew Cold Cash Jackson back when he was on City Council, worked for 3 LA Governors and my Wife worked for Mark Morial who I have also met and shared a stage with... it is a very repressive place, few people stand their ground because the Govt ... City, Parish and State will come down on you HARD and all three were corrupt to the core.
The LAANG on the other hand is made up from folks from places all over Louisiana, not just New Orleans and that is why they are not predictable.
My advice if you find yourself in a place like New Orleans ... MOVE, Now would be a good time, last year better.
I did NOT say NOBODY had weapons. I said many—particularly women— who should have had weapons, didn’t.
And I did clearly say there was a “pitched gun battle in my neighborhood, between neighbors [defending selves and property] and outsiders who came in to loot.”
Reading comprehension. It’s a skill.
NONE of my neighbors had their weapons confiscated. Although there were sporadic news reports of a few confiscations, it simply did not happen in my neighborhood, so insisting that the police and National Guard are all thugs who confiscated everybody’s weapons just is not accurate.
Where I lived, the cops were just gone, and the NG was handing out MREs, smiling and letting the neighbors take pictures of them. One of the Guardsmen was my nephew. He’s not a thug and trust me on this, he has no interest in taking away any citizen’s 2A rights, nor would he obey any order to do so.
Thankfully I got my Beeman prior to Cuomo’s “safe act”.
your right, reading is a skill, that you might want to try.
I said THUG Police (and I can speak from experience having LIVED in New Orleans and surrounding parishes...how about you?)
Sorry, many people who should have had guns...DID till the Police and National Guard went door to door TAKING THEM.
Iy might not have happened in YOUR neighborhood, but it DID happen in alot of them, and I know this first hand.
As for your nephew, thank him for his service, I didn’t say the National Guard were thugs, they were just...following orders.
“...speak from experience having lived in New Orleans and surrounding parishes, how about you?”
WTH do you think I’m talking about? Again, reading comprehension is a skill, one which YOU might oughta work on. My post was ABOUT what happened in my NO neighborhood, and you ask, “how about you?”?!
“...police and National Guard went door to door taking them...I know this first hand...”
Do tell. Really. Please elaborate. Your guns were confiscated? Your neighbors had their guns confiscated? Specifics, please. Internet links not accepted. I want to hear YOUR “first hand” experiences.
“I didn’t say the National Guard were thugs.”
Oh but you did! You lumped them together with NOPD!
But thanks for backtracking.
“They were just ...following orders.”
Their orders were to protect residents from looters— to apprehend, and if necessary, to shoot looters.
You lived in the area? Then surely you are aware of the “you loot, we shoot” signs everywhere in the aftermath of every hurricane. The NG was sent in to back us up—to stop the looting.
As for the NOPD being thugs—many, not all, are effectively in cahoots with the drug dealers, all the time.
look, you might want to rewrite history, be my guest.
So for the record. YES, people did have their guns taken, NO I will not give you their names, addresses, or places of work.
YOU missed the sarcasm in “Just following orders” I do NOT know your kin, but yes, ALOT of the National Guard did act like THUGS.
Love your revised history about Katarina, the rest of us will remember the TRUTH.
Well, it was Hurricane Katrina, not “Katarina,” but maybe that was a typo.
And it IS possible to give firsthand details about specific incidents—as I did—without giving names or addresses.
Your refusal to do so, and continuing wild, vague accusations only reaffirms my suspicions that you’re simply repeating things you read on the internet.
That a few guns may have been confiscated from looters, as well as people acting irresponsibly —most of which were later RETURNED— is not in dispute. That has been documented. Some of those confiscated weapons were determined to have been stolen, and were even returned to their rightful owners—also well documented.
That some NOPD officers are corrupt, and may have STOLEN weapons is absolutely possible. Some officers stole Cadillacs. Some officers routinely shake down drug dealers, stealing cash and dope.
But the common internet meme, that NOPD and National Guard, acting together, were “going door to door” or even “kicking down doors” to confiscate weapons from law-abiding gun owners on orders from above to do so?
Nope.
There was no such order —not from Bush, Gov. Blanco, Nagin, NOPD Chief Campo, Sheriff Harry Lee, or NG commanders— to confiscate weapons from law abiding citizens. Did. Not. Happen.
Fact: Various agencies DID go door to door, and even kicked doors down, but their orders were to look for survivors, and to note the presence of dead bodies.
Fact: SOME weapons WERE confiscated from thugs, looters, and people waving them around and acting irresponsibly, as well as empty houses, to keep them out of the hands of thieves. These were returned to claimants; some may have been STOLEN by opportunists among the responders.
Fact: Weapons left behind by evacuees were stolen by looters.
And those facts have been conflated to “officers, acting on orders from above, were going door to door, confiscating weapons.”
That doesn’t mean that Obama’s minions won’t do it in the future. But misrepresenting past events makes us look like idiots.
BTW, nobody was “herded” into “FEMA camps,” after Katrina, either.
>>> Iâve been trying to sell a MAK-90 for over a month now. Throwing in 500+ rounds of ammo to sweeten the deal brings nothing but yawns. If people were as worried about SHTF as preppers claimed that gun would have flown out of here at twice the price. I think the Obama panic gun buying is mostly concealable handguns. It doesnât appear that home defense makes much of a dent.
So I’m looking here to try to figure out what it is you’re looking to sell, if you still have it
http://www.mouseguns.com/mak90web/mak90.htm
...but I don’t know which state you’re in or what your asking price is. Sweet of you to throw in 500 rnds ammo, tho.
So these people are all liars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
Or is this a staged video?
Sounds legit to me.
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