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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
1 posted on 01/22/2016 12:32:08 PM PST by Trumpinator
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Never thought of that angle but very interesting


2 posted on 01/22/2016 12:33:46 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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You finally post something not having to do with defending Putin or his expansionist policies and it’s a dopey thing like this. “Maybe all the aliens are dead already”.


3 posted on 01/22/2016 12:35:33 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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Or maybe we are the first.

Like a Garden of Eden of the universe


4 posted on 01/22/2016 12:37:22 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Rare Earth.

The answer to Fermi's Paradox is that there aren't any other planets like ours in the galaxy.

Flame suit on, but don't fire until you read Ward & Brownlee's book, "Rare Earth."

5 posted on 01/22/2016 12:37:24 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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Maybe they were all aborted.


6 posted on 01/22/2016 12:38:08 PM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twaing)
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The universe is billions of years old. Some of them died long before us, some will arise and die long after us. It’s all moot because we are separated by incomprehensible spans of space and time.


7 posted on 01/22/2016 12:38:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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LOL.. that did make me laugh. Please tell me it wasn’t taxpayer funded.


8 posted on 01/22/2016 12:38:09 PM PST by momincombatboots (Trump... The only Democrat who can win. Democrat plant! Well played democrats)
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No, that's crazy. They're here, right now, walking around among us, we just can't see them because they're invisible.

They've got a big base down in Mexico inside a mountain that they fly in and out of.

I thought everybody knew that.

11 posted on 01/22/2016 12:38:32 PM PST by OKSooner (Once you understand that Barack Obama is not on America's side, everything that he does makes sense.)
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I worked on the Greenbank radio telescope the world largest fully steerable one. One day I jokingly said to an astronomer “Well, Is there life in outer space?” His reply was there mathematically had to be. Not only did it have to exist but millions of times over. Then he said the question is, “Are they more advanced than us?” Imagine Earth 10,000 years from now. Now imagine it 1 million years from now. etc.


12 posted on 01/22/2016 12:38:49 PM PST by IC Ken
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“2001 - A Space Odyssey” had a good take on this. Once a race becomes intelligent, there is a very short window from the time they transition from biological beings to cyborgs. After than, an even shorter window when they become G-d like entities. So, a race may only be intelligent for a 10-50 thousand years before they don’t care about making contact anymore with lesser beings.

Another theory mirrors “The Time Machine” (H.G. Wells). That is, intelligence can decay and devolve, like the Eloi and the Morlock. Or, more likely, we all catch the liberal disease and go extinct out of guilt and self doubt.


16 posted on 01/22/2016 12:42:50 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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Very interesting observation!...

Might find this interesting:

Chuck Missler talks here about the return of the Nephhilum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skSTzkmOeQw


17 posted on 01/22/2016 12:43:01 PM PST by Safrguns
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The Krell Syndrome: Technology advances to the point that a single insane individual can wipe out civilization on a whim.
18 posted on 01/22/2016 12:44:14 PM PST by snarkpup ("I want you for Secretary of Inflation." - Zippy the Pinhead)
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Imagine I am standing in Yosemite National Park (about 1200 square miles).

Imagine that I am looking for a rare blue spotted spider the size of a pin head.

Imagine that I reach in my pocket, take out my wallet and look into it, and find no blue spotted spider.

THAT is about how much we have investigated the search for aliens with hard evidence. From a human’s standpoint, just our own Milky Way Galaxy is unimaginably large and old. And there are BILLIONS of Galaxies in the Observable Universe.

So, are there rare, blue spotted spiders in Yosemite? Unless I am unbelievably lucky and find one in my wallet, I cannot draw a definitive conclusion.

Are there aliens “out there”? We have not been lucky so far, but our sample size is so vanishingly small compared to the work area, we can draw no definitive conclusion.


20 posted on 01/22/2016 12:45:51 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (HITLER! There, Zero to Godwin in 5.2 seconds.)
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Maybe they all smoked.


24 posted on 01/22/2016 12:50:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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Maybe they all went socialist and finally ran out of everyone else’s money.


26 posted on 01/22/2016 12:51:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The answer to Fermi’s paradox is that any species sufficiently advanced to have mastered Interstellar travel is sufficiently advanced to conceal themselves from primitives species they are observing, assuming they find anything worth observing to begin with.


28 posted on 01/22/2016 12:53:51 PM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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That is very interesting-I had a science teacher in the mid 60’s who said something like that-I thought he might be onto an interesting theory, but most everyone else in class thought it was a bummer that his theory meant the Martians and other aliens had gone extinct...


30 posted on 01/22/2016 12:55:50 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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“In spite all of that, we’ve yet to find a single measly microbe off-world. So where is everybody?”

This is a sort of conflation Not finding microbes on the moon or Mars (the only 2 solar bodies we have sampled) equals not finding aliens in the entire universe.

That the entire universe (of at least 200 billion galaxies each with 300 billion stars each of those with possible multiple planets) has no life because it is all dead is absurd.

Did it ever occur to these learned wise men that maybe everyone else uses some other form of communication other than the limited bit of the electromagnetic spectrum we use?

The electromagnetic spectrum is a poor way to communicate over interstellar or galactic distances. So what else is there? Who knows, but that isn’t it.


31 posted on 01/22/2016 12:55:57 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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our descendants learned how to travel thru time and came back and destroyed all other life forms except us


34 posted on 01/22/2016 12:58:02 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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The reason we can't find life is exactly because of space and thereby time.

The statistical theories could all be true about how much life “should” be out there. The problem with intelligent life? If we knew where it was, communication could take hundred or thousands of years to establish a single idea or thought simply because of the time it takes light to travel. We haven't existed long enough for that to happen. Hell, we actually were "just born yesterday" in the grand scheme of things. If intelligent life on a planet exists for 1 million years, the possibility that they evolved in a solar system at the same rate we did (within a few thousand or hundred thousand years) would be very rare. Billions of years are a lot of years. We may indeed one day realize that the universe has “teemed” with life at varying levels in varying locations. But, as the article points out, relating to all of time (tens of bilions of earth years), planetary systems are rarely stable enough to go relatively undisturbed for a length of time suitable for intelligent life to evolve.

Anyway you slice it, either we are very lucky or our existence is planned, engineered and created. ;o) I don't believe in luck.

35 posted on 01/22/2016 12:58:09 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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