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Trump vs Cruz... bridging the FR divide, while still standing up for your choice
me | JAN 22 2016 | Teacher317

Posted on 01/22/2016 11:40:24 AM PST by Teacher317

It is clear that we are almost evenly divided between Trump and Cruz (tip of the hat to DoughtyOne for the Caucus threads). It is also clear that in about 1-3 months, one will almost surely be the chosen candidate, and one will not. It is also clear that Freerepublic will still be here with both factions still being active (and hopefully not just for the "I told you so" moment that may come).

With that in mind, I'd like to make an effort at seeing if there is any way to bridge the gap between the two factions here. If you are adamantly for one, and against the other, and if you cannot possibly vote for "that other guy", then please don't bother posting here. It won't be productive. Thanks!!

So.... for this discussion, as in the Caucus threads, let us please stick to something close to this format:

I support ________.
I will / will not vote for (the other) if he is the eventual candidate, but my main concerns will be ______________________.

However, I think that he will be good if elected, because ______________

I would be more likely to react positively to (the other candidate) if posters here __________________.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: trumpcruz
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To: eddie willers

That is what I am saying. If Trump does not win, they will force Bush on us.


41 posted on 01/22/2016 12:14:07 PM PST by jimbo807
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To: Durbin

I have been Cruz/Trump....Trump/Cruz from the beginning.

They will hug it out after a tough Primary fight and come together to beat HillaryC.


42 posted on 01/22/2016 12:15:30 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Nervous Tick

Priceless! Fun read. You sound as forthright and honest as TRUMP, actually. He pleads Guilty as charged, to everything. Thx


43 posted on 01/22/2016 12:19:15 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Teacher317
When the primary rolls around, I will vote for the candidate most likely to win the general, Cruz or Trump. I almost always agree with Cruz, but Trump would probably be a better America-turnaround artist.

The main thing is to win in 2016. Stop the socialist juggernaut.

44 posted on 01/22/2016 12:23:35 PM PST by TChad (The left's accusations are usually self-descriptions..)
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To: donna

It’s been tried before. See: McLame’s “Campaign Finance Reform” and what ultimately befell it.


45 posted on 01/22/2016 12:23:50 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Teacher317

I support Cruz.

I WAS SUPPORTING Trump as 2nd choice.

However, I will not vote Trump if he is the candidate.
Why? I have listened carefully to what he has said and looked at his history and do not trust him.
Further, his behavior has so alienated me that I actively and aggressively dislike him.

Polls say 30% of Republicans feels as I do. However, many will end up voting for him probably.


46 posted on 01/22/2016 12:24:06 PM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: kiryandil
I'm a "Trumpkin", and I was a Cruz 2nd supporter till yesterday, after these "others" ignored JR and trashed Sarah Palin.

Either you like his political philosophy or you don't. It shouldn't have anything to do with trying to get back at his detractors. So far as Palin is concerned, she trashed herself.

47 posted on 01/22/2016 12:25:46 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: kiryandil
You'll find that most of the troublemakers are "The Cruz Way or The Highway". They have a certain common characteristic, too.

They've been that way since January 2015.

I'm generally laying low until March, I expect they will have run out of venom by then. Fifteen months is long enough.

48 posted on 01/22/2016 12:26:19 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The level of thinking here is getting absurd. It's getting worse than that. Calling Trump a nazi or a fascist or the new Mussolini is disgusting and evidence of a very limited intellect.
49 posted on 01/22/2016 12:27:26 PM PST by pgkdan (Trump/Cruz 2016!)
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To: kiryandil
I'm a "Trumpkin", and I was a Cruz 2nd supporter till yesterday, after these "others" ignored JR and trashed Sarah Palin.

Fill me in. What did JR say that was ignored? Something with regard to Sarah Palin?

50 posted on 01/22/2016 12:29:05 PM PST by sargon
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To: Goldsborough

Considering the definition of “conservative” seems to be very SUBJECTIVE...I could go for either Trump or Cruz because they are pro-America. I think BOTH of these men want our country in a better place.

I puke when I read comments about “most conservative” or “not conservative enough”. Dems are COUNTING on that reaction and boy there are hard-core purist perfects that are playing right into their hands.


51 posted on 01/22/2016 12:29:51 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Teacher317

I stand for Trump.

I reserve any comments on Cruz, since the primaries are not yet.
(BTW, in my State of Louisiana, Jindal will still be on the primary ballot, as of this writing.)

I do NOT want a furtherance of Socialism/Communism in my America.
I do NOT want a furtherance of insertions of mohammedans/illegal invaders in my America.

The rest is all in the unfinished recipe.


52 posted on 01/22/2016 12:30:10 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Teacher317

I’m having trouble seeing how I could support Trump. I had an open mind and was willing to give him a hard look. He lost me a few weeks ago when he attacked Cruz and Scalia from the left on the same weekend.

He has recently doubled down on the side of Big Government on Kelo (eminent domain for big business to create higher tax revenue), crony ethanol mandates, illegal snooping (NSA), and import duties (more taxes and another chance to reward crony companies chosen by the government).

Now he is coming out on the side of Turtle McConnell and against Cruz standing up to the Washington cartel.

His past support of Bill and Hillary Clinton and their family crime syndicate is unacceptable to me. I don’t care what business deal he was trying to swing.

This is the best chance in 35 years to elect a true conservative for president. I’m having trouble seeing how I could settle for someone who appears to to the left of John McCain and Mitt Romney.


53 posted on 01/22/2016 12:30:45 PM PST by BigBobber (`)
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To: Teacher317

We need to be able to come together at some point or Yeb (or one of his cronies)will be the candidate


54 posted on 01/22/2016 12:31:06 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: factoryrat

“You would have a better chance of successfully herding cats than you will trying to get conservatives to coalescse around one candidate.”

Which is why the Dems keep winning.


55 posted on 01/22/2016 12:31:08 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Goldsborough

I’m also in a May primary state. However, our convention delegate selection process starts next month and Cruz folks are well organized to lock up delegates. (Delegates are required to adhere to primary results for the first ballot, but after that anyone is fair game.)


56 posted on 01/22/2016 12:31:14 PM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Teacher317

I support Cruz.
I will vote for Trump if he is the eventual candidate.

But my main concerns about Trump are as follows:
He is not actually terribly conservative or statesman-like.

It’s OK to undo Obama’s Executive Orders but to go around Congress with new Executive Orders is not, and Trump might do just that.

Trump is masterful at handling the media...

Trump would probably be better at convincing/coercing companies to bring manufacturing back to the USA.

My biggest fear about Trump is his Supreme Court nominees. The SC is aging and the next president may get to pick 4. Cruz would try very hard to give us 4 good conservative picks. With Trump we’d probably get 2 good picks and 2 horrible picks. Depending on who retires or dies that could be catastrophic to our republic.

Both Cruz and Trump would “bomb the sh** out of ISIS”, which is good. But in other future yet unknown conflicts I’m confident that Cruz would be very careful while I fear that Trump has a tendency to shoot from the hip and might do something rash. Neither man would just capitulate like Obama has.


57 posted on 01/22/2016 12:31:40 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: pgkdan
Calling Trump a nazi or a fascist or the new Mussolini is disgusting and evidence of a very limited intellect.

I see it's becoming the new meme, I wonder who put out the talking point?

58 posted on 01/22/2016 12:32:04 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Teacher317

This cheap therapy is appreciated.


59 posted on 01/22/2016 12:32:14 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I agree with your Statement 100%


60 posted on 01/22/2016 12:33:27 PM PST by easternsky
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