Posted on 01/18/2016 8:53:14 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Short clip (17 seconds) at link above. Fox was discussing potential Presidential candidates. Discusses Rubio then brings up Cruz, but then dismisses due to not being a natural born citizen.
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I don’t see from what he posted how Cruz fits into any of the natural born scenarios. His father was not a US citizen when Cruz was born.
And so it goes. Campaigns are about destroying the good people and creating a false image about the bad people. From now until the election, the media will be out in full force looking for anything they can get Cruz or Trump on, and faithfully overlooking anything Hillary does.
Your third definition.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
Looks like that works for Cruz. Thanks.
His mother was not in the military nor a diplomat.
That part of the law does not work for him. You’ll have to find another. I didn’t see one.
I am not a lawyer, but I do not need to be to know what “natural born” under our Constitution means. I have decided to call it a birthright. Circumstances of birth. There is a claim out there that Cruz has the evangelists, so called ‘social conservatives’. Many of them will boldly claim they are no longer under even God's law. It does make sense they do not care if Cruz fits the “original intent” of the Constitutional requirement to hold the office of president.
I have yet to see/hear/read from Cruz on down with any measurable credibility that Cruz is ‘natural born’. All manner of obfuscation has been hurled to make Cruz appear to fit their personal idea of what constitutes conservative credentials...
The ultra liberals liberal Larry Tribe could care less about “original intent” and he may well defend Cruz in any eligibility case. Now would not that be fun. But what Tribe has reportedly said that I have read, was Cruz's claim to fame was “original intent” of the Constitution... Now it is evident that Cruz intends to exempt himself from original intent.
Why do I owe Cruz, something that no court or act of congress can give him? There is nothing conservative about flaunting the Constitution.
In this article, Cruz is Satan.
The N.A. of 1790 was law created by a Congress that included founding fathers along with 8 of the 11 framers of the constitution. You can disagree with them if you like. I consider the founders as not rash individuals who were very deliberate in their writings and wrote with a clear purpose. I have no reason to argue their intent in the N.A. of 1790 and I take it as unambiguously written.
And being written by a Congress that included founding fathers along with 8 of the 11 framers of the constitution - I don’t know how much more “original” you can get if you are divining “original intent”.
Like I’ve said before, that was not *my* law or *my* words — that was law written by the founding fathers in their own words: Children born to citizens outside the nation were to be considered “Natural Born Citizens”.
If Ted Cruz was Okie-Dokie in the Founding Father’s opinions, who am I to argue with their original intent, as clearly and unambiguously written in the legislative record?
But good luck with your preferred candidate!
Cruz would be shouting from the mountain tops if this made him ‘natural born’... When you hear him utter any citation that blesses him as ‘natural born’, please ping me... He did not answer the question when he had millions watching him at the last debate... That is how I know he is a fraud.
It's not exclusive to those categories.
If you're military or a diplomat, that counts toward your 5 years, even if that time was spent outside the US.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years
See?
FiveThirtyEight also had Seattle favored to win the Super Bowl. Leftist, no-nothing, website.
“...That is how I know he is a fraud...”
Like I said, you can’t get any more original “original intent” than the founder’s & framer’s own words in the NA of 1790. Who are we to argue with *them*? And not to put too fine a point on it, what exactly would you be willing to accept if the founder’s own words are not sufficient?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - including me, you *and* the founders as expressed in the NA of 1790.
I rather doubt there is anything Cruz, or anyone else affirming his candidacy’s qualification, could say that you would find satisfying. So in that regard, I will leave you to your opinion and wish you all the best with your preferred candidate!
Well the scum in White House is not a natural born citizen either, so we have tossed that law out along with the million others his criminal regime has broken. Man, I always though Jummy Kar-ter and Slick Hick Willie Klinton were the worse. But this guy has screamed pass them and has moved on down the road and they are not even in his rear view mirror any more. In 7 years of the scum and eight of GWB, the nation is now in the 3d World status.
ROFLMAO. Funniest thing I’ve seen in a year.
Since the definition is not in the Constitution, why can't the Congress or a court give natural born standing?
One either has it or not due to circumstance of birth. Cruz does not have nor can any entity give him 'natural born', only comes from citizen parents.
Since the Constitution doesn't spell it out, Congress has the power, given in the Constitution, to do so. Probably why they wrote the act in 1790, don't you think?
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bfl
Given who gets appointed to the judiciary these day none should want their take...obamacare notwithstanding... Congress has not dared to mess with ‘natural born’ yet. But given the opportunity and the reaction by some of the Cruz supporters just might give some in Congress the notion they need to fix what is not broken
‘Natural born’ is a birthright.. I do not believe any entity has the authority to take another person's birthright...There will never be 100% agreement to end natural born status.
Remember we changed the law concerning Mexicans (not sure if it is with any other nationality) when a visitor from Mexico, maybe other nations have a baby here, it is an American citizen if the parents decide, neither of them has to be an American citizen to have an American baby, but not American Moms. No they can't have a baby overseas, but the Mexicans can birth an American baby, ludicrous.
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