Posted on 01/18/2016 10:13:00 AM PST by Red Steel
Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad (R) said Monday that the birthplace of Sen. Ted Cruz is "fair game," adding to a growing chorus questioning whether the Texas Republican's Canadian birth could affect his ability to secure the GOP presidential nomination.
"When you run for president of the United States, any question is fair game. So let the people decide," Branstad told reporters Monday.
Cruz, speaking to reporters in Baton Rouge, La., noted that Branstad's son has thrown his support elsewhere, hosting fundraisers for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
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PLACE of birth has absolutely nothing to do with the definition of “natural born citizen.”
Being “natural born” is 100% the result of having a U.S. citizen parent.
Correct, hence the issue of where Obama was born. If you read the Tribe/Olson opinion on McCain's eligibility, you will see they say that Obama is eligible because he was born in Hawaii. Thus, it doesn't matter, according to them, what citizenship his parents had. Obama received his citizenship thru jus solis.
And there is no evidence he was born in the U.S.
We have his phony birth certificate, both short and long forms, and he has a US passport. He was never naturalized. There is plenty of evidence he was born in the US, the problem is whether it is fraudulent or not.
>>> You cannot claim that Cruz must be born in the U.S. to be “natural born†and at the same time deny that “anchor babies†are “natural born citizens.â€
I don’t think anybody is. As far as we know, Obama is not even a naturalized citizen. His current usage of a fraudulent SSN from Connecticut is just one of many pieces of evidence to that. Cruz we know is at least a naturalized citizen. But he is wrong to claim natural born status.
You cannot expect republicans to get away with assult while democrats get away with murder. This should be obvious by now.
Democrats play by different rules... they make them up as they go along while republicans are forced to follow the rules to the T.
Republicans simply do not have the level of corrupt officials and strong arm tacticians required to pull off what Obama did in 2008.
>>Trump has spent less than 10% of what Ted has.
He has business acumen.<<
EXACTLY. I can’t help but think that many of the people who don’t “get” Trump, despite agreeing with many of his positions, have little or no experience in business . . . probably none as entrepreneurs or executives.
For those good people, I can only ask you to have some faith in the true strength of America-—which is business, NOT government, and actually not even lawyers.
I totally agree, Amntn. When I heard Rubio give that passionate speech about becoming President and landing Air Force One in a ‘free Cuba’ . . I realized that he had an inherent loyalty to a ‘free Cuba’ that any multi-generational American was not capable of sharing because we, through the generations that had passed, had become inherently Americanized. Only TIME spent in America for many generations can make a Family true Americans in every way imaginable. I am not disparaging other nations or nationalities . . but if we want a natural born American citizen as our President, we have to take into consideration the longevity of their residency in America, their roots that extend back at least a generation, I would think. It matters to me.
No, Trump has free PR because everytime he farts the media prints it for free.
Wait til Trump gets the nomination. You will see the media destroy him everyday with stories. they are just waiting to drop bombs.
“. . we should support Cruz, at least Christians should.”
Chauncey, are you aware of the Seven Mountains Theology that Rafael Cruz preaches and Ted endorses?
Would love to hear your opinion on Ted’s Dominion Theology.
Nobody denies that Cruz was a citizen at birth, because of his parentage.There is absolutely NO basis for concern about the PLACE of birth.
You cannot claim that Cruz must be born in the U.S. to be "natural born" and at the same time deny that "anchor babies" are "natural born citizens."
Wow. Just wow. So you have somehow managed to pay zero attention to a whole slew of immigration/invasion issues. That's the only way to come up with that argument.
The anchor baby issue is whether the child is in fact a citizen at all and can be deported along with their invader parent(s). It is called birthright citizenship. And as anchors they keep the invading ALIEN parents here as well.
When you wrote your comment you clearly believed that two foreigners can jump the border and give birth to a child that is eligible to run for President. That is what an anchor baby is, a child of ALIENS delivered in the USA. You have lowered the bar further than any other bar-lowerer yet. Children of not one, but two ALIENS may be President!
As an exercise you should draw up a list of all the people who may not run for President. It appears such a list would be far shorter than a list of those who may. No doubt that is exactly what the Founders meant by requiring higher standards for President than all other offices. Yes indeed, almost anyone may run for our Presidency.
Place of birth is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to the issue of Natural Born Citizenship.
To you. And that is your right to believe it as the Supreme Court has kicked this back to the people to decide for themselves.
But geographic birth is a primary direct connection to the nation you owe allegiance to and which has jurisdiction of you.
This is not complicated, nor is it a crisis. But it sure looks like those here that want to vote for someone born in Canada ( or Kenya, or Saudi Arabia or wherever ) are over-rationalizing to seek some kind of approbation.
Those of us adhering to the highest possible standard - born in USA to citizens - didn't create this from whole cloth. This highest standard case is a pure natural born citizen who by definition has no, I said no possible conflicting allegiance by geography or heritage. There is no question whatsoever in this case by definition.
All the questionable edge cases have, wait for it, questions! Whether you choose to care about them or even acknowledge them is your prerogative. What has happened here in many cases is that NBC has been reduced down to a DNA issue, a child merely related to a single citizen, perhaps born on another planet someday.
If you think that is what John Jay meant by requesting the Commander-In-Chief have a higher standard than mere citizen because of the loyalty required from soldiers might be absent if the CinC was a foreigner, well, then believe it if you want. But Washington himself agreed this was important enough to pass along the recommendation to the Framers in Philadelphia who included it in the Constitution.
Madison and the rest simply screwed up by forgetting to add in hyperlinks to a glossary of terms for the Wikipedia and Facebook and Twitter generation to understand.
From your reply, one would have to conclude that I had said that being born in the U.S. was an EVIL.
Which, of course, I never said.
I said that place of birth is irrelevant to NBC status, as has been made clear by Congress in 1790, 1795, and subsequently.
Soetoro is not a citizen AT ALL, because NEITHER PARENT was capable of transmitting citizenship to him. It is people like you who have made it possible for him to pretend that he is a citizen, by producing the crudely forged “birth certificate” that says he was born in Hawaii.
Nothing was made clear by Naturalization Acts of 179x because those are laws. They come after the Constitution. Congress does not get to stealthily amend the Constitution. Please see another comment here. Once we even try to discuss NBC and laws in the same sentence we have deviated from original intent. They do not intersect.
But as it has turned out, the Supreme Court has left it up to us, We The People, to do what we are doing now, kicking it around. So it's all a moot point. Folks are totally free to vote for someone born in Canada or Russia or Iran if they want. If the country ever comes to its senses then at some point they will put an asterisk next to Roger Maris, I mean DingleBarry, and all the others that may follow.
You go ahead with that delusion. Be prepared for quit a shock.
That’s what I said.
If this is an issue in the general election, it will be a positive thing for Cruz.
If we had hard evidence that Obama was born in Kenya and that his parents were Marxist Romulans born in another solar system, the middle American public would vote double for Obama just to give the finger to all of us debating (properly) this Constitutional point.
If this is an issue in the general election, it will be a positive thing for Cruz.
Of course it would not be good for the Republican nominee to have this doubt hanging over him in the general, regardless of how forgiving the leftists and the leftist media are of the Kenyan.
Good points. Thank you.
Which story has not come out. Every story on Trump has been dumped countless times this election cycle.
Good luck with that line of reasoning. It won’t play out like that.
Considering open borders Glenn Beck is to endorse Ted Cruz, it just shows Cruz can't be trusted on immigration. Hell, they handed out toys to the illegals on the border together.
Now it appears that his mother may have voted in Canadian elections. She lived there for 10 years before he was born, so it was not like traveling on a vacation, or military service abroad.
But notice, nobody, ever, ever, ever, in the last 250 years, has cited “his mother voted in his birth-country’s elections” as a factor in anything.
People just keep throwing the spaghetti at the wall, hoping something sticks. Nobody is laying out the definition of NBC, and then seeing if Cruz fits, or not. It’s all, “He was born in Canada,” “his father was a Cuban,” “he’s right-handed,” etc.
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