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So I was thinking Bush-Rove would sue Cruz if he wins Iowa but now it looks like Trump might sue Cruz before Iowa.


Cruz should have never let things get this far.

1 posted on 01/17/2016 12:48:44 PM PST by jimbo123
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I am a committed Conservative. Check my history of Free Republic posts. I have been a consistently conservative Freeper for almost 16 years (I was a lurker for a couple of years before that). When I was in college, I had the honor of actively supporting and campaigning for Ronald Reagan for President, both in 1980 and 1984. It has been all downhill since then.

I am also one of the roughly 60 to 70% of Republican voters (depending on the poll) who do not currently support Trump. For Trump to win the nomination he is going to have to win over some of us. For Trump to then beat Hillary he is going to have to convince nearly all of us to actively and enthusiastically support his campaign.

I have an open mind on Trump. Moreover, if Trump is going to be the Republican nominee I desperately want to believe that he is a conservative. If we don't elect a conservative President next year then I don't see any way that our nation can come back.

Four Supreme Court Justices (one conservative, one moderate, and two far left wing liberals) will be over 80 years old next year. Two of the remaining five Justices are young far left-wing liberals appointed by Obama. If even three of the four octogenarian Justices are replaced with young liberals then a far left-wing oligarchy will be ruling the Court and every aspect of our lives for the next 30 years.

So all of you Trump supporters, don't attack us non-believers, convince us. I honestly have seen nothing of Trump's record before the current campaign to suggest that he is any more conservative than Michael Bloomberg (another New York billionaire who ran for office as a Republican). Why do you believe that Trump is a conservative and not just a very gifted salesman who knows how to tell his audience what they want to hear?

47 posted on 01/17/2016 1:11:10 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Trump is one of the most powerful anti conservative forces in America today.


52 posted on 01/17/2016 1:13:13 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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There is no legal precedent, for we have not had a President born outside the US.

Therefore to claim it is “settled” is not accurate.


64 posted on 01/17/2016 1:20:19 PM PST by truth_seeker
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Well I was rooting for a little respectful banter between Trump and Cruz this election cycle but the same old cut throat crapola. Can we just resurrect the corpse of George Washington or Ronald Reagan?


65 posted on 01/17/2016 1:20:35 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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” I’d like to talk to Ted about it, see how he’d feel about it. “

KABUKI THEATER =)


67 posted on 01/17/2016 1:22:33 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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YES!! This is exactly what needs to happen. If Trump and Cruz play this right they can prevent the dems from shoeing in the dem candidate by judicial fiat - AND can expose the 2008 coup!

Do it, Donald, do it! And then use your defense to out the 2008 coup, Ted! Man, oh, man, if these guys both mean business - as I hope and pray that they do - then Obama and the communist-Islamist alliance that committed crimes to put him into office will be exposed!

Maybe Trump’s announcement on Tuesday will be that he’s suing Cruz.

There’s one important thing that needs to be taken care of though, before the coup is exposed. We need to repair the hole in our southern radar defense. If Obama sees trouble coming he’ll tell his Iranian, North Korean, ISIS, Cuban, Venezuelan, etc friends - the communist-Islamist alliance that performed the coup for him - to attack the US (which may have been the plan all along since he said in July of 2008 that he would be POTUS for the next 8-10 years...)

Congress needs to DEMAND that the hole be fixed PRONTO. Why would they even THINK of leaving us exposed, if they didn’t want us to get hit?


71 posted on 01/17/2016 1:24:37 PM PST by butterdezillion
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Trump throws another grenade & steps back to see how many media & politicians will jump on it.

Go Trump!


85 posted on 01/17/2016 1:32:48 PM PST by TheStickman
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Just shows Trump is not who people think he is, and that Trump et el are terrified of Cruz.


86 posted on 01/17/2016 1:33:03 PM PST by svcw (Liberalism looks smart to stupid people.)
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I think Trump needs to push this because if he wins the nomination the Dems would have run with “Trump is a racist because he challenged Obama’s citizenship status”. Now Trump has shown he is a equal opportunity birther. Preemptive action. A little painful, but a necessary and wise move.


98 posted on 01/17/2016 1:40:05 PM PST by patq
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“I don’t think he has the right temperament,” Trump said. “I don’t think he’s got the right judgment. You look at the way he’s dealt with the Senate where he goes in there, frankly, you know, like a little bit of a maniac. You’re never going to get things done that way.”

“I have gotten to know him over the last three or four days, he has a wonderful temperament. He’s just fine. Don’t worry about it,” Trump responded.

“Look, the truth is, he’s a nasty guy. He was so nice to me. I mean, I knew it. I was watching. I kept saying, ‘Come on Ted. Let’s go, okay.’ But he’s a nasty guy. Nobody likes him. Nobody in Congress likes him. Nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. He’s a very –- he’s got an edge that’s not good. You can’t make deals with people like that and it’s not a good thing. It’s not a good thing for the country. Very nasty guy.”


102 posted on 01/17/2016 1:41:57 PM PST by andrewinhd
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'I'd Do The Public A Big Favor' By Suing Ted Cruz Over Eligibility To Be President

Bring it on, idiot. Even the rest of the Democrats aren't that stupid.

108 posted on 01/17/2016 1:46:30 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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" Cruz should have never let things get this far. "

Ted needs The Donald to sue him to get this off the board.

Ted, being the worlds smartest lawyer, proves his NBC theory, everything gets defined, what could be better?

110 posted on 01/17/2016 1:46:50 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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What a rancorous competitor. A great way to make America great, no doubt.


113 posted on 01/17/2016 1:52:23 PM PST by cornelis
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Talk is cheap Donald Chump. I dare you. You won’t because like every bully, you really are a wuss.


139 posted on 01/17/2016 2:09:18 PM PST by Tzfat
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I don’t like all the nitpicking around this issue. CLEARLY, as we discussed here n 2007, we need a big national dialogue on this, and I believe we need an amendment to the Constitution on this. For clarity’s sake we need to have a legalese precise definition of natural born citizen. We also need some fine print about what documents prove such a claim.

And any way the amendment comes down, there is absolutely no way that anything Obama has shown would be enough to prove he was natural born.


148 posted on 01/17/2016 2:17:26 PM PST by Yaelle
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You're right about that! Cruz should never have let things get far enough for Trump to say this:
I'd like to talk to Ted about it, see how he'd feel about it. 'Cause you know, when I file suits, I file real suits.
Poor, Ted. I bet Trump has it written down in stone long before he ever mentions something casually.

Cut those advisers loose and find your way, Ted, before they take you and your cred down for the long count.

153 posted on 01/17/2016 2:21:48 PM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Why would Trump have legal standing when Keyes did not?


165 posted on 01/17/2016 2:34:48 PM PST by Safrguns
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STANDING
The legal right to initiate a lawsuit. To do so, a person must be sufficiently affected by the matter at hand, and there must be a case or controversy that can be resolved by legal action.There are three requirements for Article III standing:

(1) injury in fact, which means an invasion of a legally protected interest that is
(a) concrete and particularized, and

(b) actual or imminent, not conjectural or hypothetical; (

2) a causal relationship between the injury and the challenged conduct, which means that the injury fairly can be traced to the challenged action of the defendant, and has not resulted from the independent action of some third party not before the court; and

(3) a likelihood that the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision, which means that the prospect of obtaining relief from the injury as a result of a favorable ruling is not too speculative.

Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 112 S. Ct. 2130, 2136 (1992) (Lujan). The party invoking federal jurisdiction bears the burden of establishing each of these elements. Id.

166 posted on 01/17/2016 2:35:02 PM PST by Walt Griffith
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Unless there is something that we're not being told, this is like and kind to obozo’s eligibility issue. The courts have tossed every suit filed against the obozo, why would they accept one against Cruz? Pure political theatrics unless the law is biased. If the court takes a suit over Cruz, where would that leave obozo?
176 posted on 01/17/2016 2:49:08 PM PST by drypowder
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Trump: 'I'd Do The Public A Big Favor' By Suing Ted Cruz Over Eligibility To Be President


180 posted on 01/17/2016 2:54:35 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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