Posted on 01/17/2016 7:41:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
The fracas between the Republican presidential front-runners escalated Sunday as Donald Trump went after Ted Cruz's likability, calling him a "nasty guy."
"Nobody likes him, nobody in Congress likes him, nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him," Trump said in an interview airing on ABC's "This Week."
After weeks of circling each other, the gloves came off between Cruz and Trump in Thursday's debate, as Trump questioned Cruz's birthright citizenship and Cruz attacked Trump's "New York values."
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
The Constitution is on Trump’s side, just as it was on John McCain’s side when he ran for president. It is also on the side of children born to American parents who are members of the U.S. military who are born on foreign soil while one or both of their parents on serving this country.
Trump realized that his chances of winning Iowa were slipping away. He became desperate and went negative. It is what liberals do.
Cruz’s has the eligibility problem. Trump did not create Cruz’s eligibility problem... The US Constitution is Cruz’s biggest enemy. And Cruz knows that, hence like any ‘good’ lawyer is said to do when the law is NOT on your side you obfuscate. Cruz has nobody to blame, but himself given he presents himself to be in support of “original intent” of the Constitution.
I have yet to hear Cruz say the words “ I am a natural born citizen” as required by original intent.
Some would probably accuse me of being a Trump supporter to question Cruz’s credibility.. But that would be assuming facts not in evidence. I do not know which candidates will make my state’s primary.
All the democrat candidates are pure breds.
Maybe you should consider voting for one of them.
Cruz has no eligibility problem. The phony issue exists only because of Trump’s desperation. Whoever would accuse you of being obsessed with this issue because you are a Trump supporter would most likely be 100 percent correct.
What is “pure bred”? That phrase is new to me... The way the Cruz people are ignoring the original intent of the Constitution, I do not have to look to the democrats to find a candidate.
IF you say so... Trump is NOT the one who started this. Cruz did by filing papers he is eligible to hold the office of president. You think Trump is bad... you wait until Cruz scores any primary votes. The liberals are going to go all ‘original intent’ on him.
Has Trump released his DNA records?
How do we know he isn’t the bastard child of some foreigner?
I have no clue... but by asking the question tells me you know Cruz is not eligible under the ‘original intent’ of the Constitution... not a pretty sight when so called conservatives sell out the Constitution and then question other peoples values...
DNA results for all candidates!!!
AKA registered DNA compliant Supreme Court certified NBC’s only should be allowed to compete in this dog and pony show.
We must not allow a mongrel in the white house!!!!!
Let’s let the same court that ruled that unborn children are not human beings make the determination as to whether any of these candidates are certified Natural born Citizens.
After all, the font of all knowledge and wisdom about the original intent of the founders and the meaning of all words is located at the corner of First Street and Maryland Avenue in NW, Washington, DC.
Go there and worship.
Calling him a “nasty guy” is not vetting. It is an attempt to destroy an opponent. In Trump’s rubric, it would be called tearing down the Cruz brand.
Sorry, but that’s been dealt with extensively and is a really stupid attempt at equivalence. All Cruz said was that by a strict standard, Trump would not be eligible either because his mother was foreign born. That’s not “going after Trump’s mom” and if you think so, then we’re in more trouble than I realized.
I do not follow. What does any of this DNA business have to do with the Constitutional requirements to hold the office of president?
No Court has touched the Constitutional requirement for holding the office of president... Nor has Congress, even though they did seem to see a need to bless lord McCain to be eligible...
I think you have gone off the deep end... Cruz has not said and cannot say I am a natural born US Citizen per the ‘original intent’ of the Constitution...
Are you calling Cruz a ‘mongrel’? Wow ... Cruz’s pedigree is not what is his problem... it is that he does not fit the Constitutional requirement to hold the office of president... And you know it and so does Cruz!!!!
I haven't insulted you.
Are you calling Cruz a ‘mongrel’?
Apparently all the people who are concerned about the candidates being pure bred NBC's think so.
BTW who do you think should decide this issue?
The voters?
The Electoral college?
Congress after the Electoral College has voted?
The Supreme Court?
You?
Personally, I think the candidate is the responsible party. It is NOT rocket science to figure out the original intent of the Constitution. If I can understand it I know darn well that Harvard Law Schooled Cruz gets it.
Why should the personal ambitions of any, override the protection set in place by the founding fathers, to preserve and protect the very laws established to protect US all. Why do I owe Cruz squat, let alone my vote. Why is he more special than anybody else that has presidential ambitions...
It is his flagrant dishonesty that turned me off... Nobody else but Cruz himself. He will not take personal individual responsibility, and that is the first hallmark credential of conservative values. He turns me off and he is a fake. If he will two time the Constitution then he will two time anybody that gets in his way for his self promotion.
Well, you don't get to decide "personally" unless you believe that the ultimate arbiter of this issue is the conscience of the voter.
So unless you believe that this is an issue that should ultimately be decided by the electorate, then how do you propose that it be decided?
Should we just turn the decision over to the Supreme Court (the same court that just ruled that the original intent of the founders was to declare that Homosexual Marriage is a fundamental constitutional right)?
Are those the people who should be entrusted with determining the original intent of the founders and the meaning of the words in that document?
Should we let the electoral college make the decision when they meet after the election?
Should we let Congress decide when they vote to certify the election?
What is your remedy if you don't think Cruz is "eligible"?
So presently I am not expecting Cruz to accept personal responsibility, he demonstrated that with his non response to a question regarding his eligibility. I think he believes that with all the ‘living breathing’ Constitutional jurists planted across this nation he will get what he intends to have.
I knew when he utter that obfuscation that he knew that he does for fit the requirements under ‘original intent’. He cannot preach ‘original intent’ of the Constitution for the masses but demand exemption for himself. Makes him double minded.
Again it is NOT rocket science... I was born in a foreign country... and I grew up rightly or wrongly thinking I could not claim ‘natural born’. However, my father was in the military and was stationed overseas. He was a natural born citizen as was/is my mother. Even still I accepted that the Constitution might preclude me as calling myself natural born. It is called love of country and Constitution that protects US all.
Who gets to decide this issue?
I have no clue who will decide. IF Cruz is who he claims to be he will not put US through a messy legal battle.. Trump is the least of Cruz’s worries. I do not have faith in the court system to follow ‘original intent’, and I suspect neither does Cruz. He may well be doing Larry Tribe’s desire by using the liberals to get some court to set precedence.
There’s no point in wasting my breath on deaf ears. And sadly, it seems to be you who are deaf & blind.
“Trump is a nasty liberal with a 90 IQ”
I’m not wading through the muck of the rest of this thread, but you’re the idiot. Trump has an IQ of 156, genius or close. That’s been posted on other threads.
Good grief, I’ve never seen (since starting to follow in 1999) such a bunch of posters with the IQ of a radish.
Tend to the beam in your own eye.
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