Posted on 01/17/2016 7:41:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
The fracas between the Republican presidential front-runners escalated Sunday as Donald Trump went after Ted Cruz's likability, calling him a "nasty guy."
"Nobody likes him, nobody in Congress likes him, nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him," Trump said in an interview airing on ABC's "This Week."
After weeks of circling each other, the gloves came off between Cruz and Trump in Thursday's debate, as Trump questioned Cruz's birthright citizenship and Cruz attacked Trump's "New York values."
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
I doubt I will have any memory of you tomorrow, no less talk behind your back. I tend to forget things not worth remembering.
It IS twisted. It would be a lot easier if everyone were Catholic. But they’re not.
That was a fine post and well-reasoned.
So....if I understand you correctly, what matters is that “our side” wins.
But what does “our side” mean? If we just want to root for the R Team over the D Team, there are much more exciting spectator sports to watch. Like curling, and chess.
Most here, I presume, are here because they BELIEVE some things. So “winning” with someone whose views are antithetical to those beliefs would be like winning a vial of arsenic.
“Winning” with someone who believes in single-payer health care?
Who rips Antonin Scalia and lauds Lawrence Tribe?
Who is indifferent to - if now completely ignorant of - the philosophical underpinnings of limited government constitutionalism?
Who has a lifelong history of supporting leftist politicians?
Who is pro-abortion when it suits him and becomes “very pro-life’ when it becomes convenient?
Who supports “assault weapons” bans when it suits him, and becomes “very pro-second-amendment” when it becomes convenient?
Who supports the abuse of eminent domain for the enrichment of PRIVATE investors?
This isn’t a game to me. I prefer baseball. And I don’t care what club colors a person espousing leftist and statist views is wearing. When that person wins, I lose, the country loses, and the Constitution loses.
Hank
No sweat. You misunderstand what’s in my head, but that’s not unusual in written exchange. I still don’t care, no hard feelings on my part even if you hate my guts [not saying you do, don’t think you do, just expressing how little I care].
If only he had not let overambition carry himself away with himself, he might have had the ideal stepping-stone to the White House after Trump. He has let himself be flattered by donors and supporters who are too right-wing to understand the median state of the nation. He stands no chance of getting elected in the general, so what a loss, really. Slow and steady wins the race, Ted. Better luck next time.
So, you rephrased your talking points. How Trumpish of you. LOL.
Cruz is well liked, particularly among his fellow conservatives. Nobody is liked by everybody. Cruz is disliked by all of the right people. I will not be voting for a person who now says that he praised and supported the most liberal politicians in this country in the past, purely for personal gain.
Your original talking points referred to the loans as "shady." What is shady about taking out a loan using your own investments as collateral? Nothing. Filing errors are not unprecedented among political candidate and neither are amended returns. If Cruz had attempted to conceal the loans from public scrutiny, then how do you think the opposition researchers discovered them? Many people, including myself, have borrowed money using a 401K account as collateral. Are those shady loans?
Do you really think that a man who has bankrupted four companies has a squeaky clean record? How many people lost their jobs when Trump filed those bankruptcies? How many millions of dollars did his creditors lose when Trump stiffed them?
Trump knew that Cruz was eligible for the presidency in September or he lied then. He either still believes that Cruz is eligible or he is lying now. There is no chance that the Supreme Court is going to hear a frivolous lawsuit concerning Cruz's eligibility before the 2016 election and everybody knows it. Cruz was born to an adult American mother and was a citizen upon his birth. The same is true of John McCain.
Trump has run an extremely dishonest and slimy campaign. It is disappointing to see him drag FR down by subjecting what was once a great gathering place for conservatives to a "yuge" mudslide.
I am trying to stay out of fighting.
My bottom lines are I could support Trump or Cruz in the end as long as they don’t bring in liberals or RINO’s as their running mates or move in a liberal-RINO direction on policy.
For now I support Cruz because I think he has conservative credentials that are consistent and needs the financial resources I can contribute to make his case.
Well, that certainly is a credible source. FWIW, I understand that Craig Mazin is not well liked or respected among other Hollywood screenwriters, not because Mazin is a leftist, but because he's an a-hole.
Maybe the AG slot for ‘Nasty’ Cruz. He can go after Hillary and crew. Cruz should like the persona. Heh.
Trumps vocabulary seems entirely composed of short words and simple sentences.
As Trump’s son said, he is a blue collar billionaire.
“Trump has little interest in first principles and cannot be trusted to pursue the good consistently, or to tell the truth consistently. “
Unlike your pillar of virtue?
Ted just has a problem keeping his ‘convictions’ straight. Cruz was instrumental in sticking us with John Roberts and now he’s weaseling out of it.
[snip]Presidential candidate and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) apparently used to have a very different opinion about Chief Justice John Roberts than he expressed on Thursday.
According to a 2005 Sun-Sentinel report, Cruz once praised Roberts as “one of the best constitutional minds in the country.”
Cruz reportedly made that comment while explaining why, as a domestic policy adviser for George W. Bush’s 2000 presidential campaign, he brought Roberts to Florida to assist with his team’s legal battle over the controversial post-election recount.
And as the Texas Tribune reported three years ago, when Bush nominated Roberts to the Supreme Court in 2005, Cruz “was an outspoken advocate for his confirmation, calling him ‘brilliant’ and a ‘lawyer’s lawyer.’”
“As an individual, John Roberts is undoubtedly a principled conservative, as is the president who appointed him,” Cruz wrote at the time in the National Review. “But, as a jurist, Judge Roberts’s approach will be that of his entire career: carefully, faithfully applying the Constitution and legal precedent.”
Cruz, now running a fiercely conservative campaign for president, seemed to have a much different take on Roberts on Thursday when the Supreme Court issued its second major ruling protecting the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare....
http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-is-bashing-john-roberts-after-years-of-praising-him-2015-6
PS....this messing with trying to post stuff so it can be read is a PAIN!
donas penchant for psychological projection is Beginning to Greatly Irritate me!!
I smell a Trump Meltdown!!
Trumps the NEW standard for nasty, and he’s none too shy about coming out of that particular closet apparently.
Another Preview of the BIG MELTDOWN!!! Yes Its coming!
“I had hoped that Trump and Cruz would combine as one ticket. That seems less likely now.”
It’s all theater. Cruz needs to come back and say that defending the Constitution is a nasty business and he’s not there to make friends.
The smartest thing Trump could do (if he’s the nominee) is to make Cruz VP. Trump will get tired of being POTUS after one term and handing it to Cruz would be the best thing for this country.
Conservative cred? Yes. But leadership cred? He has none. Didn’t really make a difference in the Senate. Couldn’t rally his GOP colleagues to Conservative causes. A lone voice in the wilderness is not a leader. His snobbish holier than thou, more Conservative than thou attitude is off-putting to the average guy or gal who isn’t obsessed with Conservative blogging. Ask the average GOP voter about Cruz and more often than not you will hear: “I don’t like him.”
It’s coming FRiend, it’s coming.
The Hoax thread.....about The would be candidate form NYC’s having “chosen” his TV show producer as VEE PEE...got pulled..but several regular Don Devotees....were CERTAIN that it was REAL and that the mean GOP had DONE THIS to GET the Don!
it was beautifully written and contained all of the Dons hackneyed phrases..replete with the ANDS...
Cruz was never gonna offer Trump the VP slot!
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